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Re: Is HD600 obsolete?
« Reply #10 on: November 18, 2014, 05:04:21 PM »

Heya DW.  Wish I had the money to just hang onto every headphone or piece of gear I happen to like but the HD600's have stuck with me for a while.  Obsolete is a relative term; they aren't as good as the HD800 at many things but that doesn't detract from their charm - very much worth having both on hand for instance.
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Re: Is HD600 obsolete?
« Reply #11 on: November 18, 2014, 06:16:21 PM »

Speakers and headphones has been made the same way since the 60's....so everything audio(except digital stuff) is pretty obsolete by now I guess...oh well though. Stuff  I own that's older than me I think sounds really good so I like obsolete.

I wouldn't say dynamic, planer, electrostatic sound too different from each other. They just have different dispersion patterns on what gives them that kinda different presentation. Electrostatic and planers tend to have lower distortion on avg but dynamics or correctly called electro-dynamic drivers can have just as clean ratings....but too much of that...soooo, yea. HD600 not obsolete,  just different design like every other thing audio.

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Re: Is HD600 obsolete?
« Reply #12 on: November 18, 2014, 06:40:05 PM »

Having an HD600 is a good reference when comparing to the latest $1000K FOTM or different transducer types like planars and stats.  It's a really good way to compare and see what you gain or giveup with each.  The fact after all these years they can still be considered a sort of reference phone against so many pricey competitors speaks volumes. 

Also good for seeing how different amp capabilities can impact a headphone's sound.

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I don't quite agree that stats give a different sound just because they are super clean, though what can make them superclean can contribute to sounding oddly wispy.  Even different sounding stats like Stax, Martin Logan, Magnapan and Sanders all have that stat ethereal Hollow Man sound. At least to my ears.

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Re: Is HD600 obsolete?
« Reply #13 on: November 18, 2014, 07:05:22 PM »

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Re: Is HD600 obsolete?
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2014, 08:06:04 PM »

I'll take an HD600 + well executed DHT headamp over KGSS + anything. Heck, I might take an HD600+Balanced B22 or even an HD600+Valhalla2 over KGSSHV + anything. But that's just me. I am not a fan of the KGSSHV.

I like the sound of dynamic drivers with traditional voice coils. The technology is simpler and this opens up a huge universe of amps. I like to think that the HD600 is different from KGSS + STAX. Whether it's better or not is a matter of taste. Because it's different and not necessarily less, the HD600 is still viable. Those who have heard HD600 with a suitable amp knows how great it can sound.

In fact, I am going to fucking buy an HD600 right now.
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Re: Is HD600 obsolete?
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2014, 08:25:02 PM »

In fact, I am going to fucking buy an HD600 right now.

LOL !!  After New old stock Tubes , that's a New Old Hype !

I'm personally considering to buy a HD650.  I think I'm fan of this lush Sound sig and the HD650 really shines too when it's well amped.

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Re: Is HD600 obsolete?
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2014, 08:33:53 PM »

Is there any point in owning an HD600 if you own a SR-007 and KGSS-HV?

Yes, if you want to hear a more neutral sound now and then.
No, if you REALLY  like the SR007 over other headphones.

And even if you don't, there's so many orthos near that price range, is it really still a standard for price: performance ratio?

It can't be a standard in price/performance ratio as that ratio sucks for this system.
There are other much lower priced systems that have a far better price/performance ratio.

Some feel the SR007 MAY be a standard for maximum performance but to most pirates it probably isn't.

Or has that moved to modified T50rp's and other orthos? (Hifiman, PM1, LCD2)

That will depend on WHO you ask.
Some will claim (modded) T50RP's are max price perf ratio, a few may even claim nothing sounds better.
The same is true for HiFiman's (name them all except the cheapies), PM1, PM2, or whatever Audeze.

In the end it doesn't matter WHAT other people may find 'best' sounding at all.
it is YOU that have to really like the sound.

Perhaps you can get by with one headphone (if one had to) in that case I would take MY HD650 on MY amp.
Others may very well be happy with the KSC75 + X1 where others would prefer a very expensive tube or SS amp + headphone.

Listen for yourself on the music YOU like and take others peoples advise for what it is (including mine)
Personal choices usually constrainted by a budget.

As for the question whether or not the HD600 is obsolete ?
I don't think so, most pirates don't think so and Sennheiser doesn't think so.
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Re: Is HD600 obsolete?
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2014, 10:32:28 PM »

Interesting post. I've gone back and forth over whether or not I should sell my HD600 (I use the HD800 primarily), but ultimately decided that it'd be a mistake for the following reasons:

- It's a very well known reference, and probably worth keeping around for this reason alone.
- Resale value is quite low, price/performance ratio is insanely high.
- The HD600 scales like a motherf*****. I still haven't heard it at it's best, and I'd like to continue listening to it as I move in to better upstream gear.
- I really like it's slightly relaxed sound signature, and feel it'd be a great choice for a secondary bedroom setup.

Wonderful headphone.  :)p1
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Re: Is HD600 obsolete?
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2014, 03:02:10 AM »

I can say one thing: you get an even bigger appreciation for the HD600 after you listen to HD540 Reference. I had a 300ohm model 540 and the leap between the two is just completely incredible. The HD540 is *shrill* and papery sounding. I'm not sure what their R&D did to make the giant move between the two...but whatever they were paid for the work, it wasn't enough.
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Re: Is HD600 obsolete?
« Reply #19 on: November 19, 2014, 06:45:02 AM »

depends

SR-007 MKI, yes

MKII or MKIII, probably not
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