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Y'all might want to re-think your position.

http://tmsearch.uspto.gov/bin/showfield?f=doc&state=4801:mhq6ky.2.2

P.S. the USPTO database is not some secret thing known only to a handful of clued-in IP lawyers, and you don't need to sacrifice a goat by the light of a full moon in order to access it.  But I suppose this kind of speculation is more fun than actual knowledge.  Yes, Dave, I am looking straight at you.
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I think I will pass on their stuff. I've always avoided THX certified stuff like the plague. A decade ago, a friend of mine invited me over to his house because he was all geeked on his THX certified amps. I told him they sounded like shit.

THX "Select" and "Ultra" certifications are extremely vague, or at least they refuse to share what the precise metrics actually are. When it comes to amplifiers, the only real requirement is that the amp has to reach so called reference level in a given square footage without clipping. I would assume they test this with THX certified speakers which presumably have to fall within a certain sensitivity window, but who knows.

On receivers you get that plus a whole bunch of mandatory bullshit like THX Cinema and ReEQ modes, which all sound like garbage. Interestingly it seems like none of the latest big ticket AV receivers have it anymore, or at least none of them bother to tout the THX logo on their front panels, which is a good sign. It obviously doesn't make any sense to pay some idiots from THX a bunch of money to measure your products for you when your own engineers are perfectly capable of that, and I don't think the marketing power of the logo means anything anymore to most consumers.

For dedicated amplifiers I would expect even Adcom and Rotel would have enough dignity to not bother getting a THX stamp, and I can't think of anybody else who would other than maybe the most bottom of the barrel HT focused brands like B&K if they are even still around.

Aragon slapped the THX crap on their stuff when they were making junk under the Klipsch brand, which doesn't surprise me at all. When I think of bad sound, Klipsch is pretty much the first name that springs to mind, and they've long fallen for THX nonsense.

The worst of it though were the THX certified multimedia speakers. That was basically just a scam.
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I wrote a long diatribe on what I hate THX. I decided to delete it and to post the pictures below instead. That is essentially what is wrong with THX.

"Bren Delrin" aka "hey, it's Cliff Clavin in ST:ESB!"


"WTF, whoa, an action figure of Cliff Clavin in ST:ESB!"
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I don't quite get it, marv. As far as I know, THX is really a nothing more than a quality standard... Putting a THX sticker means one has spent quite a lot of money to show that his/her products meet or exceed the standard set by THX.

Or you implying that standard is quite useless and wrong?
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George Lucas being greedy and trying to make a buck through whatever dubious means possible, e.g. assigning random peeps in Star Wars stupid names and action figures to be sold to crazy collections, creating useless certifications such as THX to be sold to crazy audiophiles, etc.
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Lucas knows how to make a buck, no doubt. At least he held on to Star Wars long enough to bless us with the prequels poo, plus the great CGI laden "special" editions before he sold off the franchise to Disney for a cool $4 billion.
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THX, at least 24 years ago, wasn't a quality standard, it was a club. From my post on HF:

Some comments on THX, preceded by a disclaimer: this data is 24 years old, and I have no idea if THX still operates this way. So, this may not be accurate any more.
 
But, based on a meeting Sumo had with a THX rep in 1990 at CES, THX at the time operated very differently than Dolby.
 
Dolby (and DTS, etc) are licensing bodies. They will approve your device if it meets their specs. Now, it may take you a very long time to meet their specs, and your submission may not be prioritized, but it is a binary relationship. Pass = license. Eventually.
 
THX seemed like a licensing body...at least until we started talking to them. We asked what technical specs an amp had to pass to become THX certified, because we were interested in the idea for the Sumo amps. The answer we got was relatively vague...just that THX would test them as part of the process. And, of course, a significant certification fee had to be paid. That's expected—you're betting the licensing/certification fee is the lead into revenue that will mote than cover it, of course.
 
But that's when it got interesting. The THX rep opined that, "Well, maybe we have enough 200W per channel stereo amps that are certified, how is yours different?"
 
"Wait, you mean we can pass the tests and not be THX certified?" I asked.
 
"Well, we're looking for something more than just another amp, we already have plenty of manufacturers that make products with similar specs to yours."
 
"So this isn't just a certification, it's selection and protection?" I asked.
 
The THX guy smiled. "Right."
 
So, THX, at least at the time, wasn't a binary relationship. It was, "Well, if you're special enough, we'll let you into the club...providing you pass some unspecified tests, pay your fees...and you don't conflict too much with our other licensees."
 
No, thanks. I'll stick to producing product that stands on its own merits, without having to be selected as part of a club.
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THX is complete and utter bullshit. Worked on a project that never saw the light of day where they were courting us. The nature of the product did not fit at all with any of the other products they certify. Think products that couldn't get ANYWHERE CLOSE to their reference (-20 dBFS pin noise/85 dB calibrated OR -30 dBFS pink noise/75dB calibrated) levels. Fuck, the product would have blown up if placed in the proximity of a HT system hitting 105dB peaks. I was so confused as to why their BD guys wanted to THX certify something that was completely unrelated just because it had something to do with audio and had a big name company stamped on it.
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THX, at least 24 years ago, wasn't a quality standard, it was a club. From my post on HF:

Some comments on THX, preceded by a disclaimer: this data is 24 years old, and I have no idea if THX still operates this way. So, this may not be accurate any more.
 
But, based on a meeting Sumo had with a THX rep in 1990 at CES, THX at the time operated very differently than Dolby.
 
Dolby (and DTS, etc) are licensing bodies. They will approve your device if it meets their specs. Now, it may take you a very long time to meet their specs, and your submission may not be prioritized, but it is a binary relationship. Pass = license. Eventually.
 
THX seemed like a licensing body...at least until we started talking to them. We asked what technical specs an amp had to pass to become THX certified, because we were interested in the idea for the Sumo amps. The answer we got was relatively vague...just that THX would test them as part of the process. And, of course, a significant certification fee had to be paid. That's expected—you're betting the licensing/certification fee is the lead into revenue that will mote than cover it, of course.
 
But that's when it got interesting. The THX rep opined that, "Well, maybe we have enough 200W per channel stereo amps that are certified, how is yours different?"
 
"Wait, you mean we can pass the tests and not be THX certified?" I asked.
 
"Well, we're looking for something more than just another amp, we already have plenty of manufacturers that make products with similar specs to yours."
 
"So this isn't just a certification, it's selection and protection?" I asked.
 
The THX guy smiled. "Right."
 
So, THX, at least at the time, wasn't a binary relationship. It was, "Well, if you're special enough, we'll let you into the club...providing you pass some unspecified tests, pay your fees...and you don't conflict too much with our other licensees."
 
No, thanks. I'll stick to producing product that stands on its own merits, without having to be selected as part of a club.


So it's utter joke.


I was always wondering about the fact that there are tons of DTS/Dolby licenses, yet relatively few THX passed products outside of movie disclaimers. No wonder why.

Interesting thing is none of Creative Lab's new products (a parent company of THX) is THX certified. Creative's new Sound Blaster X7 looks nice and could use a THX logo on it.
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George Lucas being greedy and trying to make a buck through whatever dubious means possible, e.g. assigning random peeps in Star Wars stupid names and action figures to be sold to crazy collections, creating useless certifications such as THX to be sold to crazy audiophiles, etc.

I don't think THX is an audiophile thing as such is it? It's not something that I hear my "crazy-audiophile" friends ever even mentioning. Not the just-stereo ones, at least. Does it have any meaning outside of home theatre?
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