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JVC HA‐SZ1000 LiveBeat
« on: November 14, 2014, 06:20:48 AM »

* These are with Alpha Pads. Stock pads did IMO hell of a lot bettar: http://www.changstar.com/index.php/topic,1926.msg52112.html#msg52112

Sound

These are quite bassy and with considerable amount of impact. Unfortunately, the bass area is not clean. There is considerable amount of distortion. Not enough to completely draw me away from them, but enough to be noticeable and problematic with certain songs. 

The balance from mids to treble is not too horrible, but there is some edge in the mids that may be troublesome for some. There is also some hollowness in these that makes some live recordings loose credibility. Resolution is not very good.

Treble is not offensive or painful in any way which is a good thing. It is also reasonably well extended.

These isolate pretty well.

Comfort

I think these are not too bad in the comfort area. A little tight, but can wear them for a while with no major objections.

Presentation

Like. However these cans are freaking huge!



Price

$280 $180 seems to be the street price, which I think is too steep for what one gets. One does seem to get the kool factor of having two drivers per channel though:

* "Kelton-method" producing "rich bass sound with 55mm carbon diaphragm unit and dual stream duct" -> Huge driver towards the back of the cup.
* "Special tuned 30mm driver unit with carbon nano tubes diaghragm" -> Second wimpy driver with some random diaphragm technology (JVC needs to fix their Marketing blab typo)

Stupid Plots

... which are proly "contrary to ACTUAL scientific concordance":

Frequency Response



Distortion Right



Distortion Left



CSD Right



CSD Left



Impedance

« Last Edit: November 17, 2014, 05:20:03 AM by ultrabike »
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Re: JVC HA‐SZ2000 LiveBeat
« Reply #1 on: November 14, 2014, 01:32:18 PM »

Very cool!!
Thanks for this!
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Re: JVC HA‐SZ2000 LiveBeat
« Reply #2 on: November 14, 2014, 04:13:41 PM »

BTW, G, if these are the ones I sent you, they are actually the SZ1000s not the SZ2000. ;)

Also, these have MrSpeakers Alpha Pads on... just an FYI for the readers.


Thanks.
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Re: JVC HA‐SZ1000 LiveBeat
« Reply #3 on: November 14, 2014, 04:42:04 PM »

Ups! Fixed that!

Thanks Gelocks! Will try next with the other pads tonite. Extra karma for all your contributions. Thanks dude! :)p5

Um... Seems JVC is claiming 16 ohms. Will verify that tonite also. These are indeed about 16 ohms.
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Re: JVC HA‐SZ1000 LiveBeat
« Reply #4 on: November 14, 2014, 09:14:01 PM »


Stupid Plots

... which are proly "contrary to ACTUAL scientific concordance"

Hahaha did not noticed that on first glance! LOL!

Ups! Fixed that!

Thanks Gelocks! Will try next with the other pads tonite. Extra karma for all your contributions. Thanks dude! :)p5

Um... Seems JVC is claiming 16 ohms. Will verify that tonite also.

Awesome! Thank you G! For me it's super fun correlating what I hear with the measurements so it's all in good fun! :)

That 16Ohms thing... yeah... these might be a bit easy to drive but properly amped is when they really shine.
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Re: JVC HA‐SZ1000 LiveBeat
« Reply #5 on: November 16, 2014, 06:02:24 AM »

Alright. So heard and measured again with the stock pads. What a difference! Liked it a lot more! At first I though maybe I got acclimated to the signature or something, but nope, live stuff sounded much less fake. Pretty decent closed cans this time around. Bass distortion issue is for the most part gone. Edge in the mids might still be there, but much less of a problem for me. Wow... They may be a little too forward this time around though.

I did screw up the impedance measurement somehow previously, and will update above. These are indeed 16 ohms nominal.

Stock Pads Measurements:

Frequency Response



Distortion Right



Distortion Left



CSD Right



CSD Left



These may seem a bit pricy and uber huge, but they don't sound bad at all in their stock form. Less bassy and more neutral than what I recall from a set of M50s. Not bad, not bad at all!
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Re: JVC HA‐SZ1000 LiveBeat
« Reply #6 on: November 16, 2014, 08:18:11 AM »

Man...too awesome!!
Thanks and thanks gelocks for giving your pair for measuring. headbang
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Re: JVC HA‐SZ1000 LiveBeat
« Reply #7 on: November 17, 2014, 02:27:26 AM »

What were the pads that made me go "gah!" - the first post measurements?
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Re: JVC HA‐SZ1000 LiveBeat
« Reply #8 on: November 17, 2014, 03:10:39 AM »

Yup. Mr. Speakers Alpha Pads did not work IMO with these ones. Bass when up, but it also went to hell relative to the stock pads. Proly the saving grace of the Alpha Pads is that they are somewhat comfy... maybe.
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Re: JVC HA‐SZ1000 LiveBeat
« Reply #9 on: November 17, 2014, 01:14:42 PM »

Yup.
I changed them mostly for comfort and because I found the low mids too forward which wouldn't have been a problem if the headphones were not so warm in the first place. But yeah, there was a reason I kept the original pads! ;)

Overall, these are the headphones that has given me the "club" experience the most... the bass is crazy once EQ'ed!
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