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Re: JVC HA‐SZ1000 LiveBeat
« Reply #10 on: November 17, 2014, 09:47:18 PM »

So is this anything but a basshead's wet dream? I'm interested them but it's more of a curiosity than anything...
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Re: JVC HA‐SZ1000 LiveBeat
« Reply #11 on: November 17, 2014, 09:55:03 PM »

Stock pads are actually not that bassy at all. Pretty netural actually. FWIW I like these better than the M50s in stock form... The Focals might be better, but perhaps more unconfortable.
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Re: JVC HA‐SZ1000 LiveBeat
« Reply #12 on: November 17, 2014, 10:14:34 PM »

FWIW I like these better than the M50s in stock form...
I can't stand the M50 so that's not much help, but maybe when I have a bit of extra cash...

Anyone heard the SZ2000 as well?
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Re: JVC HA‐SZ1000 LiveBeat
« Reply #13 on: November 17, 2014, 10:36:59 PM »

Haven't, but it seems the 2000 has some sort of enhanced rigid driver base:

http://cdn.jvc.eu/szfxz/sz/index.html

Who knows if that makes it sound moar bettar. But for the most part it seems both models are pretty similar ... two-way big hamburger-phones.
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Re: JVC HA‐SZ1000 LiveBeat
« Reply #14 on: November 18, 2014, 01:25:18 AM »

I had the SZ2000 as well... didn't like it as much because it was even warmer!!!!!!!
Takato, I don't think you'll like either of these...

You can also take a look at:

http://en.goldenears.net/index.php?mid=GR_Headphones&category=275&document_srl=46357
http://en.goldenears.net/index.php?mid=GR_Headphones&document_srl=49622
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Re: JVC HA‐SZ1000 LiveBeat
« Reply #15 on: November 18, 2014, 01:59:19 AM »

Wow! Where did the sub-bass (and a good chunk of bass) go? Don't think I heard them like that stock... :)p8

They are proly using measurement techniques in agreement with "ACTUAL scientific concordance" though.
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Re: JVC HA‐SZ1000 LiveBeat
« Reply #16 on: November 18, 2014, 10:45:19 AM »






Test tones starting at 60Hz around the 3:30 mark

e12 gain switch on, bass boost on gain knob 60% (shown in vid)
Cowon with BBE+8 Mach3Bass +9

Both cans.

The sz graphs show a low sub bass because the driver is behind a buncha stuff (Kelton method).  They are not Hi-fi but simulate the club (dark, loud,) Somebody who is an audiphile once described these as being in a smokey club just a tad too close to the stage amps/speakers but enjoying the hell out of it. Plays R&B,Jazz,Hip Hop Rap very very well. They will not play Rock with electric guitar or large arena, stage stuff. Orchestra...unless jamming them into a smokey club is your thing ....not for these. I walk into Japanese hi fi shops and bass test cans for fun and these are peerless. Genre' specific but I listen to that stuff so these are dream cans. 1 year later and I'm still a fanboy




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Re: JVC HA‐SZ1000 LiveBeat
« Reply #17 on: November 18, 2014, 04:52:43 PM »

LOL! What you did with the paper baffle is fairly similar to what I use for measurement except I add a little foam iin between coupler and baffle to reduce reflected energy. Note one thing though: Some headphones will deliver lots of bass when sealed but almost none when a little gap develops between the coupler. Some headphones will deliver relatively similar amounts of bass when sealed or when little gaps develops between the coupler.

So you would have to look at the vibration of the paper due to the sealed driver only if the pads are sealed (which in this case are). You might need to tape the paper to the cup to guarantee seal.
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Re: JVC HA‐SZ1000 LiveBeat
« Reply #18 on: November 19, 2014, 01:34:14 AM »

 Yeah, I have messed around for about a year and my goal was measuring the validity of the "Hey these will kick your head" claims and the crowd that throws them around.  Over ear personal impressions are rank #1 and over rule graphs and anything else IMO but they are guides (graphs etc). The energy being transferred to the head via the pads is being checked more than anything. A set like the DX1000 has bass in spades but it's
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It's so big and the pads absorb an enormous amount of energy before it reaches your skull but your ears and inside the pads are getting big waves of bass

These vids are nothing more than putting a face on bass. If you can feel it on your head you should be able to see that energy...and you can. Nothing has ever conflicted with over ear impressions. The cans you think will move the paper do and the ones you don't think will don't. The Pro 900 are M.I.A from the library as their bass is higher and the pads velourish and they are not as they are hyped to be. The Q40...very nice sound but I was told the bass would melt my face....I shoulda known. I hope nobody takes this wrong. I'm just having fun. Replicable fun  under the same hardware,settings and shared.  The only variable is paper placement and that depends on the clamp style but it's always a 1/2 A4. The variable would be like a dummy head giving slight variations in feedback based on positioning .
Nothing is perfect but it all has a purpose and combined it's a lot of info to consider.

Back to the SZ. The only cans that make me ponder deep philosophical questions like...Will I be able to hear when I am 60? ...Is violently shaking loose material from my ear canal a good thing?
My ZEN cans :))
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