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Re: SuSy Dynahi vs What it wishes it could be.. the Schiit Ragnarok
« Reply #10 on: November 11, 2014, 12:11:48 AM »

I don't suppose you heard the Rag with the HE6 (you mentioned the Slant as your only remaining planar)? I love my Dynahi to pieces, as it's the only amp (of what I own) that can shake the LCD-3's into a fun, yet technically able headphone. However, I would love to consolidate and get rid of the Odyssey Stratos + CSP2 > HE6 setup. Feel the Rag is up to driving both the LCD's and HE6, so that little is left wanted? I would jump at the chance to kill three birds with one stone.
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Re: SuSy Dynahi vs What it wishes it could be.. the Schiit Ragnarok
« Reply #11 on: November 11, 2014, 12:27:10 AM »

In my book, it is a resounding YES (Rag + HE-6, that is).
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Re: SuSy Dynahi vs What it wishes it could be.. the Schiit Ragnarok
« Reply #12 on: November 11, 2014, 12:28:35 AM »

Nothing… I mean nothing has the same “kick in the pants” type authority this amp has.

This mirrors my impression of the original Dynahi with HD600 and LCD2s, too. The impact and authority the Dynahi has was very satisfying in the way the GS-1 wasn't.

Would love to know how it pairs with the LCD3F, HE6, and especially UEs. Since it also powers speakers and is easily toggleable, the Rag is very tempting as a one size fits all solution.
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Re: SuSy Dynahi vs What it wishes it could be.. the Schiit Ragnarok
« Reply #13 on: November 11, 2014, 12:44:15 AM »

In my book, it is a resounding YES (Rag + HE-6, that is).

Sounds encouraging. Did you formerly have a reference HE6 setup that the Rag contends with? I find the HE6 generally breeds dissatisfaction and a pain to get right, but quite good when the elements are in place.
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Re: SuSy Dynahi vs What it wishes it could be.. the Schiit Ragnarok
« Reply #14 on: November 11, 2014, 01:42:28 AM »

Do you feel the "engagement" factor is because the Rag is better able to render and distinguish tiny volume shifts, and do so in a faster, more authoritative, more instantaneous way? That is to "really dig in"? I hope I'm making sense. In essence what I mean by "microdynamics".

This aspect was where I found the Rag very similar to good* tube amps.

Also, how does Susy compare vs. the Klone? I like the Klone quite a bit as well.


*Leben, Little Dot, and many other cheap Chinese tube amps need not apply.

That sounds about right. I hate to use a cliche, but there are definitely times when I hear something in a recording that I didn't know was there. It also has what I can describe as a "top-tapping" quality, which has to do with dynamics and the way they are rendered. So yes, definitely exciting to listening to and in such a way that I never knew what I was missing.

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Re: SuSy Dynahi vs What it wishes it could be.. the Schiit Ragnarok
« Reply #15 on: November 11, 2014, 01:47:39 AM »

Right!  But notice how neutral is assumed to measure flat (in our subconscious) and natural is assumed to not measure flat.  As you know both the Dynahi and Rag measure flat as do most non-broken tube and SS amps.

Agree with Marv on the engagement factor on how the Rag approaches SE tube amps.

Very true, I still need more time with the Rag and I need to do more listening with the Theta. I've been having trouble with one of the regulators so it is in need of servicing. Most of my impressions with the Theta are through my speakers which definitely are not as detailed as the HD800. Will report back and reassess.

I don't suppose you heard the Rag with the HE6 (you mentioned the Slant as your only remaining planar)? I love my Dynahi to pieces, as it's the only amp (of what I own) that can shake the LCD-3's into a fun, yet technically able headphone. However, I would love to consolidate and get rid of the Odyssey Stratos + CSP2 > HE6 setup. Feel the Rag is up to driving both the LCD's and HE6, so that little is left wanted? I would jump at the chance to kill three birds with one stone.

I have a pair of LCD-3 and HE-6 (stock) on loan right now. Both are very good with both amps. If your HE-6 is stock like this one, the Rag is a better match. I think I remember you saying you like a smoother, richer presentation - if that is the case definitely consider the Rag. The Dynahi has more grunt, reminiscent of a good speaker amp but it doesn't have the resolving power nor the slight warmth that the Rag has. Both are good, but for sake of simplicity I would give the nod to the Ragnarok for sure.
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Re: SuSy Dynahi vs What it wishes it could be.. the Schiit Ragnarok
« Reply #16 on: November 11, 2014, 02:58:49 AM »

This is what happens when Jason and Co. get their hands on the AllSpark.



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Re: SuSy Dynahi vs What it wishes it could be.. the Schiit Ragnarok
« Reply #17 on: November 11, 2014, 05:14:37 AM »

Do you feel the "engagement" factor is because the Rag is better able to render and distinguish tiny volume shifts, and do so in a faster, more authoritative, more instantaneous way? That is to "really dig in"? I hope I'm making sense. In essence what I mean by "microdynamics".

This aspect was where I found the Rag very similar to good* tube amps.

Also, how does Susy compare vs. the Klone? I like the Klone quite a bit as well.


*Leben, Little Dot, and many other cheap Chinese tube amps need not apply.


Sorry missed this - From memory the Krell fairs pretty well in comparison. The Klone is leaner and lighter in presentation compared to the meatier, harder hitting Dynahi. Resolving power is actually very similar. I'd give the slight nod to the Dynahi in terms of staging.. slightly wider and more precise. Klone can also be a bit compressed sounding compared to the Dynahi which I feel has some of the best macrodynamics I've heard from an SS amp.

Overall though, the differences are smaller than the price would indicate. On a strict budget the Klone is a killer amp. If one doesn't care much for a fancy chassis, it can easily be built for under $1K with a nice pot. Price/performance the Klone wins, very underrated amp... understandably so considering its DIY.
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Re: SuSy Dynahi vs What it wishes it could be.. the Schiit Ragnarok
« Reply #18 on: November 11, 2014, 05:25:26 AM »

I'm interested in how your Dynahi sounds.  n3rdlings Dynahi was similar to my unmodded Super7 in a lot of ways and it never struck me as having such untouchable macro dynamics.  I think some have mentioned it was a more laid back sounding Dynahi build.

Your Klone had the TKD or GP?
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Re: SuSy Dynahi vs What it wishes it could be.. the Schiit Ragnarok
« Reply #19 on: November 11, 2014, 05:49:06 AM »

TKD.. What is your reference for SS amps with excellent macrodynamics? Laid-back is definitely not how I would describe this Dynahi.
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