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Re: $1000± for mini monitors…
« Reply #70 on: September 12, 2015, 09:36:32 PM »

Here is my great all purpose desktop stand .............and they are inexpensive    8)






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Re: $1000± for mini monitors…
« Reply #71 on: September 12, 2015, 11:24:56 PM »

Very nice.

If it was me, I'd fill those holes with stuff. But I'm just messy.
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Re: $1000± for mini monitors…
« Reply #72 on: September 13, 2015, 09:24:14 AM »

Pfft, cinderblocks? I used phone books, binders and candy tins  :)p13
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Re: $1000± for mini monitors…
« Reply #73 on: September 13, 2015, 09:33:23 AM »

Pfft, cinderblocks? I used phone books, binders and candy tins  :)p13
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What pads are those on your HE-6?
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Re: $1000± for mini monitors…
« Reply #74 on: September 13, 2015, 01:52:01 PM »

I always used cinder blocks or heavy concrete slabs. I have 180lbs of concret slabs under my speakers and another 200lb+ of slabs with couple layers of sprayed on rubber for my big subs. Always worked for me but, for desk monitors if I ever used them I probably make some rubber and foam combo maybe...I don't know. Never used tiny studio monitors before. Always had big heavy speakers(lightest speakers ever owned were polk monitor 10b's before I sold them off and they were bout 65lbs each). My mini monitors are usually headphones.
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Re: $1000± for mini monitors…
« Reply #75 on: September 13, 2015, 04:58:42 PM »

What pads are those on your HE-6?

Jmoney Beyer pads, discontinued long ago. I prefer them over the Audeze vegans in my config.
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Re: $1000± for mini monitors…
« Reply #76 on: September 16, 2015, 02:35:04 AM »

I went back to the hifi store today with my Surface Pro and my own music. I plugged it into the McIntosh D100 via USB and played away. Impressions are similar to last time, but this time I have some more specific notes.

I really noticed that the setup there was overly thick and warm sounding compared to what I was used to with both my speaker and headphone setups. I think it can be attributed to the McIntosh house sound (The D100 is acting as dac/pre-amp), based on what I've read. Is it true that McIntoshes tend to be warm sounding?

I noticed that the treble was somewhat rolled off. The sibilance in Hotel California is somewhat masked by the setup. In addition, the setup was somewhat lacking in dynamics. There weren't huge shifts in volume as expected in some of my tracks. It was overall just kind of soft sounding. Transients were somewhat smeared and slow (Guitar struts in various tracks). Drums hits were not tight and slow to decay. Instruments didn't seem to just "pop" out and fade like what I'm used to with the Yggy. Is that due to a lack of a black background, poor transients, and slow decay?

That's not to say that there weren't any positives to the system. The LS50s filled up the room pretty well and had good soundstaging for their size. One example is on Dogs by Pink Floyd (Animals 2011 remaster): the howls and barks from the dogs seemed to come from outside the boundaries of the speakers. Again from my previous post, imaging was pretty good... BUT, I think it was really held back by the lush sound.

I don't really think that the LS50s were tuned this way, based on many accounts of how they sound. The McIntosh D100 and Classe Sigma AMP2 seem to be a poor match for the LS50s imo, based on my own preferences for how a speaker or even a headphone setup should sound. Of course, it's hard to say which part of the system contributed to what I was hearing but at the very least if I'm correct about the McIntosh house sound, then I have a better idea of the whole system. I can understand that a lot of people may want this forgiving, lush sound but to make an analogy that's often used here: why gimp a hd800 with an overly warm and unresolving amp (violectric amps for example)? It just doesn't make sense to me. I'd love to give the LS50s another chance, but lugging my Yggy and Virtue to the store would take too much work. My best bet would be taking the risk and buying them sometime down the line.

Hopefully this post was somewhat coherent. Please correct me if I used some of these audio terms wrong.
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Re: $1000± for mini monitors…
« Reply #77 on: September 16, 2015, 03:46:14 AM »

Looks like some people agitate for an LS50 active edition, probably named LS 55 or something similar actually:
http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2015/09/think-about-the-future-an-active-kef-ls50-loudspeaker/
Interesting product if it ever comes to life: cheaper than a good amp and passive speakers, optimized amp, and less real estate taken on the desk.

In the meanwhile I have been eyeing the coaxial offerings from equator audio - did any of the Pirates try them?
http://www.equatoraudio.com/
They received accolades from the recording industry for their affordable and innovative D5. The man behind the company, Ted Keffalo, is a veteran in this domain with excellent track of innovative and quality products. Most products on the site are out of stock though- think they may be up to something- either strong demand of their wares or announcing new versions.

For people looking for desktop speakers, https://www.massdrop.com/home has a good deal on Adam F7. At less than half the price of A7x and very close behind in quality they may be a great choice.
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Re: $1000± for mini monitors…
« Reply #78 on: September 16, 2015, 06:21:08 AM »

One of these days I'd like to give one of those Equator Q models a spin
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Re: $1000± for mini monitors…
« Reply #79 on: September 16, 2015, 06:40:04 AM »

Looks like some people agitate for an LS50 active edition, probably named LS 55 or something similar actually:
http://www.digitalaudioreview.net/2015/09/think-about-the-future-an-active-kef-ls50-loudspeaker/
Interesting product if it ever comes to life: cheaper than a good amp and passive speakers, optimized amp, and less real estate taken on the desk.

In the meanwhile I have been eyeing the coaxial offerings from equator audio - did any of the Pirates try them?
http://www.equatoraudio.com/
They received accolades from the recording industry for their affordable and innovative D5. The man behind the company, Ted Keffalo, is a veteran in this domain with excellent track of innovative and quality products. Most products on the site are out of stock though- think they may be up to something- either strong demand of their wares or announcing new versions.

For people looking for desktop speakers, https://www.massdrop.com/home has a good deal on Adam F7. At less than half the price of A7x and very close behind in quality they may be a great choice.

There is absolutely no space inside the existing cabinets. I've taken them apart once and know that you can barely stick a beercan in there. Either they make a backpack type of amp module or redesign the cabs.
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