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Re: Open Source Speaker Project
« Reply #10 on: March 23, 2012, 08:24:46 PM »

Do you want in on it? I will be buying a 2 1/2D CNC routing machine for carving the parts. The cabinets are always the hard part.
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Re: Open Source Speaker Project
« Reply #11 on: March 24, 2012, 02:59:37 AM »

you dredge distant memories , fond ones non the less.

I really liked the work of Tony Gee - http://www.humblehomemadehifi.com/download.html , looks like his main focus is kits now but when he started it was all about experimenting. I first read about series crossovers on his webpages and moddified the crossover of the speakers I was building to a series crossover and the improvement was not small.

His andromeda sounds along the lines of what you are trying to do http://www.humblehomemadehifi.com/download/Humble%20Homemade%20Hifi_Andromeda%20Mk-I_copy.pdf , it might give you some ideas.

The biggest pain when I was building speakers was the cabinetry , that CNC is going to save you much cursing and spanner throwing.

Just to keep ideas afloat, did you consider planar or ribbon tweeters / midrange units. They are generally pricey if you buy them retail but there is so much turn around on diy audio that it would make it worth keeping an eye open.

If I were to do it again, I would opt for an isobarik bass chamber, a ribbon ( but I prefer the simplicity of a 2 way - for a 3 way , probably look for a good soft dome upper bass / lower mid unit )

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Re: Open Source Speaker Project
« Reply #12 on: March 24, 2012, 03:03:40 AM »

Do you want in on it? I will be buying a 2 1/2D CNC routing machine for carving the parts. The cabinets are always the hard part.

I think so. It definitely sounds fun and interesting, but I have no idea what the project entails or how much work is involved so I was going to see how yours went. Looks to be a good idea for hands on learning. If you're not starting until closer to August, I'll have some time to do some pre-research.
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Re: Open Source Speaker Project
« Reply #13 on: March 24, 2012, 03:13:55 AM »

you dredge distant memories , fond ones non the less.

I really liked the work of Tony Gee - http://www.humblehomemadehifi.com/download.html , looks like his main focus is kits now but when he started it was all about experimenting. I first read about series crossovers on his webpages and moddified the crossover of the speakers I was building to a series crossover and the improvement was not small.

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Oh yeah, I love that guy. I've long studied his designs.

My previous builds used more expensive metal drivers (the Seas magnesium stuff) with horrible ringing that required complex crossovers with steep slopes, but this time around, I wanted to see if I could get away with simpler crossover designs, a la Thiel. I figure could always go crazy later with active circuitry and fancy drivers. The idea behind this speaker is really an efficient 2-way with a "sub" crossed over very high at 150Hz. The efficiency is why I'll be using two woofers. I'll be crossing over one woofer at a different spot to account for baffle step - a good way to "cheat" - something I've done with success before.

Some of the best sounding drivers are really inefficient - but I've since sold my big power amps. So compromises will need to be made. That's what its all about anyways. The fun part really is with the final voicing.

I think so. It definitely sounds fun and interesting, but I have no idea what the project entails or how much work is involved so I was going to see how yours went. Looks to be a good idea for hands on learning. If you're not starting until closer to August, I'll have some time to do some pre-research.


I'll let you know how it progresses. LFF and Anax are in. We can get slight discounts on high volume parts orders.
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Re: Open Source Speaker Project
« Reply #14 on: March 24, 2012, 03:40:29 AM »

You do understand that this will merely lead you down the path of big power amps of the first watt demeanor.  ;D

I truly see the attraction of efficient speakers, mine were around 92, my new monitors are 83 and they are not so happy with a measly 50W. I also don't see the point of monitors on stands - much more sense to use your idea of a slim cabinet and use the space to create some low end worth listening to. It is a pity isobarik woofers are not more efficient, it would be pure win. Stepping the woofer crossover is pretty sneaky.

looking forward to seeing the progression ..dB
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Re: Open Source Speaker Project
« Reply #15 on: March 24, 2012, 03:49:15 AM »

At least the commercial sold First Watt stuff is somewhat reasonably priced. I'm hoping Anax can get away with his 3 watt Super 7 on the mid/highs and then we use a separate cheap power amp for the bass.

I've got kids now so I don't want to throw "money" to solve problems. Although I'm tempted by this driver:

http://www.madisoundspeakerstore.com/approx-6-midrange/accuton-c173-6-090-6.5-ceramic-cone-midrange/

Highly efficient and well behaved.
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Re: Open Source Speaker Project
« Reply #16 on: March 24, 2012, 05:02:16 AM »

Plus it looks awesome.
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Re: Open Source Speaker Project
« Reply #17 on: March 24, 2012, 01:16:41 PM »

LOL , talk about blowing the budget. They are tres sexy but I would encourage you no to  lose your focus. You can build a superb system within budget , as you well know :)

Just a thought, have you thought of an active bass section? A 300w D amp - drive it off the speaker taps with a simple attenuation network as if you were driving headphones.

I will stfu now ..dB
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Re: Open Source Speaker Project
« Reply #18 on: March 24, 2012, 03:09:06 PM »

LOL , talk about blowing the budget. They are tres sexy but I would encourage you no to  lose your focus. You can build a superb system within budget , as you well know :)

Just a thought, have you thought of an active bass section? A 300w D amp - drive it off the speaker taps with a simple attenuation network as if you were driving headphones.

I will stfu now ..dB

That's a very good idea. I'm considering running the mid/tweeter box full range with the bass cabinet just serving as sub-bass reinforcement. That way, I only need a low pass circuit on the midrange. And a baffle step circuit.
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Re: Open Source Speaker Project
« Reply #19 on: March 25, 2012, 05:56:49 AM »

Wow....that ceramic driver would kill my budget in one swift stroke.  ???
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