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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #410 on: May 06, 2015, 05:04:34 PM »

OK. More listening last night and this afternoon here. the HE-9 will go. I miss clarity and transparency and I can't get rid of this feeling that there's something synthetic in timbres.

So i'll eat my words one more time and i'll go to the BW+PSU route and i'll continue to save money for a DNA Stratus.   popcorn

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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #411 on: May 06, 2015, 06:29:27 PM »

purrin,

Did you have a chance to try the LC with the HD800?  Still prefer the LG listed on the first page of the thread?

I'm looking for an amp upgrade to pair with my Yggy and considering my WTB: L-2 on HF has been up over a year I'm not holding my breath on one of those to manifest.  I might try a Val2 in the meantime.  I'm leaning towards something fully balanced and prefer tubes but I may give the Rag a shot.
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #412 on: May 06, 2015, 06:44:35 PM »

Liquid Crimson was fine with HD800 and my personal preference over LG. LG is more laid back. Greed owned an LG and HD800 (SAA mod which is like 5% of an Anax mod, but for $1200 more dollars.) Might want to ask him.

Get the best amp you can get and don't worry about balanced for not.

Great Balanced > Great SE >>> Merely Good Balanced > Merely Good SE >>> Mediocre Balanced >= Mediocre SE.
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #413 on: May 06, 2015, 07:00:04 PM »

Get the best amp you can get and don't worry about balanced for not.

Good advice.  Appreciate the feedback.
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #414 on: May 06, 2015, 10:23:08 PM »

OK. More listening last night and this afternoon here. the HE-9 will go. I miss clarity and transparency and I can't get rid of this feeling that there's something synthetic in timbres.

So i'll eat my words one more time and i'll go to the BW+PSU route and i'll continue to save money for a DNA Stratus.   popcorn

Yup. I did not miss it either. One of the better solid states, and in some ways I preferred it to the Moon 430HA or Ragnarok. The drawbacks: One of the reasons is the colourations it has. One notch too warm for me and that bass while a lot of fun, is probably unrealistic. This affects transparency as it imposes too much of its character over the source. Hence it did not move me. The EC 2A3MK4 does. I've not heard the Stratus yet - here's an idea. Bring yours to CanJam London (if you get one by then)! I'll likely bring my EC.
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #415 on: May 06, 2015, 10:49:21 PM »

Did anyone have some experience with the Audio-GD Master 9 against other Solid-State contenders and best Tube amps ?

Hi,

I may be of assistance as a colleague has a Master 9 & Master 7 stack for his Audez'e LCD-3.

With the HD800 I do not think this is a good pairing. Master 9 has a cold tonality, something like the HeadAmp GS-X 2. It also has a tendency to sound thin and missing information in high harmonics.

Compared to other high-end SS amps pairing with the HD800, I feel it's slightly below the GS-X 2 and AURALiC Taurus and far from the real good amps like the AMB Beta 22 (DIY), or the Japanese-made MASS-kobo or Luxman offerings.

Hope this helps.

Regards,
Jeremiah
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #416 on: May 06, 2015, 11:38:29 PM »

Didn't Kingwa go for the more neutral colder side of things with the master series? I mean i'm still listening to a phoenix although i tweaked the bias by lowering it a bit below stock to make it a tiny bit darker and made sure all 4 amps are matched exactly. That last bit is very important IME. To give a bit of reference compared to my modded crack, i prefer the phoenix noticeably. It's just as smooth but tighter and more plankton.

Some changes i made to the crack are speedball upgrade, film oil output caps, 41 steps attenuator, russian military tube socket for the input tube, tubes used are GEC 6AS7G Brown base and various tungsram, GE and mullard input tubes.

But source is most important though, if you fuck that up the phoenix sounds bland and the crack is more enjoyable.

My setup right now is: MF V-link 192+squeezeupgrade usb psu>Violectric V800>Phoenix>120Ohm impedance adapter>HD800 without mods(this one doesn't have much of a 6k peak, 27k range on s/n). Cables are diy sommer cable.
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #417 on: May 07, 2015, 10:22:33 PM »

Hi Riotvan,

Good point about the bias. The unit I tried is stock so perhaps it can be improved if one tweaks around with the setting.

Regards,
Jeremiah
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #418 on: May 08, 2015, 03:31:02 PM »

It's very worthwhile you just have to contact them i guess so you know where the pots are and where to measure. Also knowing the default setting is a good starting point. I did have a look at their pics and i couldn't find the pots, perhaps they were obscured from view.

Maybe this one is auto bias? Or is that a tube only thing? If you do find the info though make sure the amp is fully warmed up before adjusting the bias. Also try using something non conductive to adjust the screws, not that it's needed but if you fuck up and drop your screwdriver it's not gonna be pleasant.
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #419 on: May 21, 2015, 07:55:35 PM »

Hi Riotvan,

After informing about your bias setting, my friend plans to send his Master 9 back to China to be retuned by Kingwa and also to fix about grounding issues. He also mentioned that Kingwa sets the bias at moderate level to ensure cool operating temperature but he can raise it if the customer wants, which should improve neutrality and detail retrieval.

I'm looking forward to hear the retuned version because I feel that the Master 9 is a great value. It's slightly below GS-X MK2 but it's half the price.

Regards,
Jeremiah
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