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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #310 on: March 18, 2015, 03:27:55 PM »

That's very subjective - but I think Valhalla 2 sounds pretty good with stock tubes, but definitely can be upgrades with the right NOS tubes.
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #311 on: March 18, 2015, 03:56:58 PM »

That's very subjective - but I think Valhalla 2 sounds pretty good with stock tubes, but definitely can be upgrades with the right NOS tubes.

Hmm thanks, have you heard the Crack? How does it compare to the Valhalla 2, been thinking about getting either the Val2 or Vali to hold me over while I save up for a big boy tube amp (EC BA or DNA Stratus).
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #312 on: March 18, 2015, 11:06:01 PM »


Would you say that something like a Zana deux se, wa22, dna stratus would be better than a rag?

Zana Deux is tricky. Although OTL with euphonic luxurious kind of sound, it also tends to be the sharpest in terms of treble among the EC amps. On a relative scale, no where as sharp as some SS amps, but just be something to be aware of. If ZD, I'd consider the use of replacement (copper) cable with the HD800 and/or a DAC without any digital edge.

DNA Stratus is warm and tubey, but done in a most tasteful way. HD800 do work out of the Stratus. The "wet", intimate nature, and microdynamic ability of the Stratus is a good match for the HD800. You can roll all sorts of 2A3s to get the sound you want too. My favorite is the more solid-state sounding EML Meshes for a taut bass. Many others I have observed prefer the bloomier big tubes Shuguangs.

WA22 doesn't quite sound as good as the above.

Rag is interesting in that its smooth treble and technicalities are unsurpassed for a solid-state amp, this is good for HD800, but tonally Rag is lean in the bass with the HD800. One solution may be to add resisters in series to artificially bump up the Rag's 0 output impedance.
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #313 on: March 18, 2015, 11:48:36 PM »

I'd use a Magni 2 Uber over the WA22 anyday. There is like only person who hypes that thing because it's one of the few amps he's owned or listened to. Some Canadian with a black belt or something. Remove the WA22 from consideration. Heck you'd be better off with a WA6 than that thing.
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #314 on: March 19, 2015, 12:08:56 AM »

Or the Valhalla 2. Stock tubes are very good. Some of the 6922 type NOS can give some improvement. But I wouldn't spend a lot, especially if you are going to be upgrading.
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #315 on: March 19, 2015, 01:23:28 AM »

Is the gap between the Vali and the Valhalla 2 considerable? Factoring in that it's going to be a stopgap.
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #316 on: March 19, 2015, 02:21:16 AM »

There is like only person who hypes that thing because it's one of the few amps he's owned or listened to. Some Canadian with a black belt or something.

LOL. So bad...
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #317 on: March 19, 2015, 02:23:19 AM »

Is the gap between the Vali and the Valhalla 2 considerable? Factoring in that it's going to be a stopgap.

Considerable.

Also, keep in mind that Valhalla 2 tends to be more solid-state sounding than most people expect. It is not warm and gooey. It's resolving and clear sounding. There are at least two people I know who reverted back to Valhalla 1 because of that.
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #318 on: March 19, 2015, 03:04:38 AM »

Considerable.

Also, keep in mind that Valhalla 2 tends to be more solid-state sounding than most people expect. It is not warm and gooey. It's resolving and clear sounding. There are at least two people I know who reverted back to Valhalla 1 because of that.
True with stock tubes for sure. Some Amperex 6DJ8's can bring some tube warmness back,  but not too much gooey.
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #319 on: March 19, 2015, 03:05:21 AM »

The V2 is quite better than the Vali and the Magni 2 uber imo. I miss having the V2 around, after I had to send it back to my friend. Purrin is spot on when he says that the V2 is somewhat solid-state sounding with the stock tubes. The V2 sounds more like the magn 2 uber than the vali, based off of memory.

^impressions based on hd600, gungnir, parasound d/ac-1100 and using the amps as a preamp for the audioengine A2s.
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