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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #230 on: February 15, 2015, 01:24:19 PM »

Just different sort of distortion or rather noise. Inherently hard to rid of that mechanical noise, but it has less distortion, assuming truly high quality rig and no digital garbage superimposed.
Doesn't look like a good quality cartridge (or vinyl disk) on the video.
   Many pirates here hold vinyl in high regard, i have friends whom i trust saying that top vinyl rig surpasses any other source.
Returning of R-2R area might change things, though.
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #231 on: February 15, 2015, 01:29:43 PM »

Then you most be a special kind of naive ;)

When you trust your mate opinion more than your own ;)
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #232 on: February 15, 2015, 01:46:13 PM »

I can not have an opinion myself, when i have not heard said something myself. All i can have is a leap of faith.
I trust my friend's hearing more than some random person's in internet. I also have grown to trust most pirates here, because their suggestions on gear or music have not failed me.
Fotm and super-objectivists hype is not in favor here, thankfully.
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #233 on: February 15, 2015, 01:53:05 PM »

 facepalm
I rest My case
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #234 on: February 15, 2015, 02:58:00 PM »

The best vinyl and tube rigs out there utterly destroy 90% of the mechanical solid state hash most people claim as superior due to how many zeroes follow the decimal (0.0000001blahblah). The clicks and pops disappear cuz the rest sounds soooo good. Whereas most solid state usually gives you this 'sound of sand' over everything. Sort of a low fi grain that's more subtle than say MP3 compression artifacts.

The macro stuff on a good pressing doesn't bother me as I'm used to rather naked high quality masters devoid of noise reduction veiling anyway so I don't mind as long as its not something persistently egregious and repetitive.

The continuity and clarity of vinyl and tubes is just unmatched. Distortion noobs just fixate on the wrong measurements most of the time.
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #235 on: February 15, 2015, 03:11:18 PM »

facepalm
I rest My case
 :)p13
Regarding tubes i was in the same boat with you until i heard Apex Pinnacle, which may or my not be among best amplifiers ever made for HD800.
This thing just uterly destroys anything solid state i have heard to date. And i dislike slow and gooey amplifiers or anything that compresses dynamics, apparently.
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #236 on: February 15, 2015, 03:43:45 PM »

You dont get clarity in Vinyl, you get that in hq headphones and active speakers.
Solid state are only preferable with headphones, as passive speakers also have distortion just like vinyl and valves, so not much point in using them anyway.

If you want good Vinyl sound plug them to and good active speaker, if you what superior sound use lossless files with good active speakers.. Not that many have tried to compare so don't know what they are talking about.

Too much of this topic it's a waste of time talking to a door facepalm
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #237 on: February 15, 2015, 04:11:13 PM »

You dont get clarity in Vinyl..., as passive speakers also have distortion just like vinyl and valves, so not much point in using them anyway.

From my experience I could not disagree more. Do comparative listening to a live feed as we did at Caltech  in the Music Lab and then comment.
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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #238 on: February 15, 2015, 04:22:35 PM »

As I said before I tested Vinyl vs 128 MP3, on my Bad JMR passive speakers and Cayin amp and MP3 sounded much more clean I did the same on some hq active speakers and vinyl sounded muddy and lacking big time in details to lossless files miles ahead which sounded much more clean with superior details you never had the chance hearing with vinyl.

Classic case of let's agree to disagree  ;)

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Re: Best Amps for Sennheiser HD800
« Reply #239 on: February 15, 2015, 04:30:42 PM »

It would help, if you stated the specific rigs you used.
I can believe a typical 500$ DJ vinyl player can easily be worse than computer soundcard outputing 128kbps mp3.

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