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Re: DAC guts stuff, etc.
« Reply #90 on: December 25, 2014, 04:02:28 PM »

This came out a while back and maybe some of you guys might be familiar with the stuff being said here but its interesting nonetheless, an article on ultra low distortion design.

http://www.ap.com/display/file/747
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Re: DAC guts stuff, etc.
« Reply #91 on: March 20, 2015, 09:15:17 PM »

Don't remember seeing it posted here.

An extensive list of DAC / CD players with their DAC chips: http://www.dutchaudioclassics.nl/the_complete_d_a_dac_converter_list/#M
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Re: DAC guts stuff, etc.
« Reply #92 on: March 21, 2015, 02:12:56 AM »

For sigma-delta, noise shaping would be used. This of course would introduce a entirely different type of linearity errors, but given how sigma-delta works, the overall error would be less.
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Now how does this correlate to what we hear? Those of you who have heard enough DACs, quality DACs that is of both kinds, know that resistor ladder and sigma-delta sound different and have different strengths. The best sigma-delta implementations sound highly detailed with sharp attacks. The best resistor ladder DACs sound smooth with natural timbre.
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Maybe greater linearity = more resolving (it's true mathematically, but is it true subjectively?) Maybe linearity error plots with certain more predictable patterns = smoother more natural sound?

Very interesting!  I know I'm quite late to the party, but it just struck me how this proposition is somewhat analogous to Nelson Pass' comments about negative feedback in amplifiers - that negative feedback decreases total THD, and improves other standard audio measurements, but at the cost of adding new complex distortion components/nonlinear distortions, particularly of high order, that many people perceive as unnatural.  https://passlabs.com/articles/audio-distortion-and-feedback 

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