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Re: Media Players and iTunes Alternatives
« Reply #40 on: February 19, 2015, 01:48:41 PM »

Whilst it does not quite go back to the command line, my feeling about audio players, as I realised the other day, is still rooted in the days when processors were a lot less powerful, and any unnecessary graphics stuff really could cause glitches. Hard though I find it to say, the Windows family of operating systems has improved enormously over the years too.

Even though I admit that the prejudice is outdated, I still like my audio player interfaces to be simple. As a matter personal taste, I dislike GUI designs that try to look like a chrome-plated jukebox, and I wouldn't be wild about a wood-boxed pre-amp look either! It is only very recently that I have even allowed "album art" onto my monitor!

Also based in an outdated prejudice is my dislike of media management systems, or library software. It dates back to my early rips in WAV format and, even when I started using FLAC and ogg, I was even later to realise about tags. My music is organised in directory trees: why would I want any other software to "organise" it? That prejudice was extremely reinforced  by early experiences with such software actually changing file names etc according to what it thought was right. That is not what I wanted!

Those with collections of thousands of albums can probably see the gaping holes in my viewpoint here. The mental jury is still out: as I increase my digital library I might well start to see the point of using library tools. Until then, I am keeping it simple, and also keeping it so that the data structure is player-agnostic.

A move to Linux, a few years ago, meant leaving Foobar behind. At that time (not now), it was also hard to find gapless music players, and I was also forced, by a Firewire interface, into using JACK (the Jack Audio Connections Kit).

That all led to my first post-linux favoured audio player: Aqualung.   I remained happy with Aqualung for a long time. I remained happy with it until I started to acquire higher-than-44.1k bit-rate music. There is nothing wrong with how Aqualung plays different bit rates, but JACK has to be started and run at a fixed bit rate, and (completely subjective and unmeasured) find something wrong in the way that Aqualung converted bit rates.

That led me to DeadBeef.  It does what I want, in the way that (for now) I want it. It's sample-rate conversion does not remove life from the music. Gapless playback goes without saying, of course.
 
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Re: Media Players and iTunes Alternatives
« Reply #41 on: February 19, 2015, 07:07:44 PM »

I would assume so.  Just like the Gizmo of old.  I don't know when the redesigned version of Gizmo will be out, but I assume sometime this year.  Gizmo has been needing a facelift and redesign.

Well JRemote isn't free... Or maybe they'll have both a free and "premium" version of gizmo down the road.
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Re: Media Players and iTunes Alternatives
« Reply #42 on: February 19, 2015, 08:58:48 PM »

Well JRemote isn't free... Or maybe they'll have both a free and "premium" version of gizmo down the road.

JRemote was written by a third-party programmer.  Not by JRiver.  It was a paid app because the programmer probably likes to be able to afford to eat.

That developer was recently hired by JRiver.  JRiver will keep the guy fed.  So I'm expecting that the iOS app will become free.  And the Android app will remain free.  But I'm just guessing.
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Re: Media Players and iTunes Alternatives
« Reply #43 on: February 20, 2015, 10:59:48 AM »

Jremote is the most expensive ipad app I ever bought at $10 and it was definitely worth it.  Glad that guy got hired by jriver
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Re: Media Players and iTunes Alternatives
« Reply #44 on: April 26, 2015, 01:52:20 PM »

why would I want any other software to "organise" it?
I have my music sorted as "Listening" > "Artist - Year - Album (any version information) [FLAC]"

I still keep it organized for picking out of Windows Explorer, but I love Musicbee for playing because of the library management functions.
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Re: Media Players and iTunes Alternatives
« Reply #45 on: June 30, 2015, 08:09:04 PM »

I've went from QCD to Foobar on Windows and then when I switched to OS X I tried all the demos but eventually settled on JRMC. It does have flaws - almost all of which stem from it being a port - but it's incredibly flexible. It's kinda ironic that I use it's flexibility to effectively de-feature it. I hate library management as I've been catalogueing my own music for 15 years now. I don't need to search by genre or any of that shite.

It also supports VST3 plug-ins which can be fun to play around with. It's built-in Crossfeed is the best I've come across so far. It can be skinned to look pretty decent too..



Anyone who's still using Gizmo on Android should kick it to the kerb and install eos instead. So much better..

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lenworthrose.eos&hl=en
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Re: Media Players and iTunes Alternatives
« Reply #46 on: June 30, 2015, 08:11:59 PM »

Foobar all the way!
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Re: Media Players and iTunes Alternatives
« Reply #47 on: June 30, 2015, 08:28:24 PM »

I've went from QCD to Foobar on Windows and then when I switched to OS X I tried all the demos but eventually settled on JRMC. It does have flaws - almost all of which stem from it being a port - but it's incredibly flexible. It's kinda ironic that I use it's flexibility to effectively de-feature it. I hate library management as I've been catalogueing my own music for 15 years now. I don't need to search by genre or any of that shite.

It also supports VST3 plug-ins which can be fun to play around with. It's built-in Crossfeed is the best I've come across so far. It can be skinned to look pretty decent too..



Anyone who's still using Gizmo on Android should kick it to the kerb and install eos instead. So much better..

https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=com.lenworthrose.eos&hl=en

Hadn't seen EOS but I did know that they were workign on JRemote (which I love on my phone but I have an Android tablet). Thanks for the heads up.

Can I ask what JRMC skin you're using? I haven't looked at any in a good while and the default is ugly.
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Re: Media Players and iTunes Alternatives
« Reply #48 on: June 30, 2015, 08:32:57 PM »

JRemote is quite possibly very good but I won't pay that much money for an app. Eos does just about everything I could wish for.

The skin I'm using is called Modern Cards & is designed to look good with the dark Yosemite theme..

http://solrighal.deviantart.com/art/Modern-Cards-Updated-2014-09-19-New-styles-397411922
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Re: Media Players and iTunes Alternatives
« Reply #49 on: June 30, 2015, 08:47:08 PM »

Foobar all the way for me too.  I like my interfaces as simple as possible.

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