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Re: Oppo PM-2
« Reply #40 on: August 15, 2014, 10:07:39 PM »

I used two specific materials for my tweaks. (BTW, this site is great if you want to experiment with a lot of different foam materials. Pretty cool seeing how they all affect the sound in different ways. I bought a bunch of random crap in bulk for cheap.)

It's quite interesting that you managed to shift  the treble resonance from 8 to 10kHz. As if it was related to the diameter of the aperture in front of the driver? Looks like fun experimenting in any case, esp. since you can objectively quantify level of alteration!

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Re: Oppo PM-2
« Reply #41 on: August 15, 2014, 10:14:50 PM »

Hans, I assume you like the change. Shift from 8k to 10k with dip more filled?
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Re: Oppo PM-2
« Reply #42 on: August 16, 2014, 06:13:03 AM »

Yup, really dig how they sound now. Some impressions in the post above the tweak pics if you missed em. And, as mentioned, I think the left ear measurement (raw 1 and 2) better represent what I hear on the PM-2 at up until around just before the 10KHz area. Slightly smoother transition, bit more filled in at 5KHz than what the averaged results show in the end.

One downside to stretching them out is that they no longer fit in the carrying case. :( Haha, oh well.
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Basic Measurements - Just a Widened Headband
« Reply #43 on: August 16, 2014, 06:38:52 PM »

For completeness, wanted to post quick measurements (just a couple samples, left channel, left ear, too lazy to crop out window) of the PM-2 with just a widened headband. No front damping materials. Forgot to change the scale on one of them.

This is very interesting and sounds better than I expected. Haven't done a back-to-back comparison, but it may be better than with front damping. I got so caught up in smoothing out the 8KHz peak and rough treble characteristic while dealing with the "stock clamp" that I forgot to see how they sounded just with less clamp. Well, here we go. Not bad at all, actually. Bass might be a bit tighter and visceral this way...most likely going crazy the past few days and need to give headphones a rest. I will say the PM-2 is rather ballsy from my Sansui 5000A and sounds better than the PM-1 for some reason in this regard. These seem to like power like all other orthos I've tried and sound a bit weaker from my Leckerton (a bit weaker than the HD600 on the Leck.).

Still a bit on the rough side from a subjective standpoint, but well balanced and not at all annoying like I remember the stock clamp being. Perhaps this explains some of the differences I heard originally vs. purrin. I seem to notice I complain more about clamp and headphone pressure than others, so maybe I do indeed have a larger head, thus resulting in some of the subjective differences.

Soon, we will need to include full head measurements before getting into meaningful discussions about what we hear.  :)p12 :)p13
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Re: Oppo PM-2
« Reply #44 on: August 30, 2014, 05:37:37 AM »

   Everyone knows about the controversy regarding the sound of OPPO sets, especially the PM-1. I had a chance to listen and measure 6 different sets of OPPO headphones and came to an interesting conclusion regarding their quality and sales/marketing tactics.

   Here is how it all started:
OPPO had launched their PM1 set in Singapore with a lot of noise and fanfare. One of the things that stood out for me was the twin female models who were supposed to represent perfect matching of their planar drivers. Great idea, especially if it tells the truth, right?
   By that time I only measured two PM1 sets, and of course none of the drivers matched perfectly so I thought oh well, probably just my bad luck. Both sets sounded unsatisfactory, I started modding and forgot about the initial measurements for a while, up until I got a hold of one of their reference units. Wow, what a different story it was. This happened well before the release of PM2 and all the alternative pads. Reference set sounded and measured waaay better and my impressions of its sound all of a sudden started to correlate with those from Tyll.
   This should have rang a bell for me back then but I let it slip....again. Then PM-2 came out, I purchased two sets, all the drivers measured different but I know how it is with planars, cute twins at the presentation is one thing and production reality is another, so I just kept on modding.
   Revelation came when I was given a chance to play with a set from Darin. He made arrangements with OPPOs management for a set of PM-2 to demo his "Out of your head" software. What a surprise it was, both his drivers measured almost identical and much better then all of mine. Finally I decided to put two and two together; the twins and graphs at the Singapore presentation, all the raving reviews, reference set that I was given a chance to listen/measure, Darin's PM-2, Tyll's PM-1 and finally Purr1n's PM-2 that for whatever reason they would not give him at the LA meet but had to send from headquarters the very next day.... . 
   Well, maybe the whole thing is just my imagination but I personally have never met one single person who liked OPPOs as much as all the reviewers did and I am talking about many people I met for the first time, who's opinion should not have been biased and who were just regular attendees at multiple events I have visited since official release of these headphones.
     Driver variation or a marketing strategy, what do you pirates think?  walk the plank




   
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Re: Oppo PM-2
« Reply #45 on: August 30, 2014, 04:25:09 PM »

I do wonder if the PM-1 have gone through silent revisions. Sennheiser did the same thing with the HD-650.
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Re: Oppo PM-2
« Reply #46 on: August 30, 2014, 04:44:00 PM »

I do wonder if the PM-1 have gone through silent revisions. Sennheiser did the same thing with the HD-650.

600s too. N sold me his newer revision and has an older one now. I prefer the newer, personally.
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Re: Oppo PM-2
« Reply #47 on: August 30, 2014, 05:04:39 PM »

I wander the same thing but who is going to buy PM1 now since PM2 is out, probably we will never find out  facepalm
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Re: Oppo PM-2
« Reply #48 on: August 30, 2014, 05:22:33 PM »

Cute twins and shiny wooden boxes. Sounds like hi-fi audio shenanigans.
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Re: Oppo PM-2
« Reply #49 on: September 09, 2014, 03:05:45 AM »

For anyone that might be interested, I posted my full, lengthy review of the PM-2 at HF finally: http://www.head-fi.org/products/oppo-pm-2/reviews/11555

The info itself isn't new...maybe a couple things here and there, such as the brief ZMFxVibro comparison and measurements (full review of that coming here soon). It's just more fleshed out and better compiled and organized than what I've posted so far.
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