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Re: 2014 Woodland Hills Meet - Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #10 on: August 11, 2014, 04:14:45 AM »

Ok. Anyway, Donald North is a super chill; great to talk to someone who knows their shit like that.
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Re: 2014 Woodland Hills Meet - Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #11 on: August 11, 2014, 04:41:57 AM »

Violectric 281? Snore.  Literally: I think I actually nodded off for a couple of minutes while listening to a Schubert piano sonata.

That's Violectric for ya.  At least not overly bright or warm like some their past snores.  Maybe you don't like the sound of 'neutral' and 'transparent'.  LOL!!!
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Re: 2014 Woodland Hills Meet - Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #12 on: August 11, 2014, 04:47:35 AM »

Luv Donald, great guy and amp/speaker builder.  So different talking about amps and audio gear with someone from Caltech with lots of hands on experience rather than self proclaimed experts that have only heard of Caltech or do occasional maintenance there. 
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Re: 2014 Woodland Hills Meet - Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #13 on: August 11, 2014, 05:07:48 AM »

Sadly, it seems many folk didn't make it past the vendors down to our room or Cooter's unless they had to use the restroom.  Their loss.

I feel the same way. I guess the layout worked as planned to isolate us too.
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Re: 2014 Woodland Hills Meet - Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #14 on: August 11, 2014, 05:23:30 AM »

We'll see how long the existing meet model is able to last. It's not just attendees, but also vendors who are getting sick of things. It seems to me that a few major players were starting to reel back their intentiveness.
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Re: 2014 Woodland Hills Meet - Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #15 on: August 11, 2014, 05:24:56 AM »

One of these days we definitely need to do a comparison between the MSB and the Bricasti side by side. I'm still not convinced one is "better" than the other. At this point I'm comfortable saying:

1) Filters actually do work and contribute significantly to the overall sound.
2) Minimal Filters > Linear Filters
3) SE Outs = Balanced Outs.. (compared to the MSB where the SE is clearly cleaner sounding)
4) USB is actually pretty good.

As I said sound significantly changes depending on your upstream gear, specifically source. I do agree that the sound can be slightly sigma-deltaish. I wish that we were able to test with your source material and source. At times I feel the MBP with Audirvana can have a grainy/edgy sound with an artificial sense of clarity.

I believe with more time and a side-by-side comparison, you guys will find that both DACs play in the same league with the MSB being more laid-back, expansive, and more liquid whereas the Bricasti is faster, cleaner, slightly more resolving (we may disagree here as I feel the MSB isn't too far behind but the presentation somewhat masks the details micro and macro), and maybe more dynamic.

More thoughts to come..
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Re: 2014 Woodland Hills Meet - Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #16 on: August 11, 2014, 05:53:23 AM »

Sadly, it seems many folk didn't make it past the vendors down to our room or Cooter's unless they had to use the restroom.  Their loss.
I feel the same way. I guess the layout worked as planned to isolate us too.

Just to be clear, are you suggesting that members and exhibitors should be placed together?  Or alternatively that exhibitors should have been placed in those rooms instead?   :-S  Please let me know as it would help us to improve and refine things over time.  Here's a specific question that you guys could help with... would you say that it would have been better if we put all member tables together in the Ventura (big) room?

As far as groupings go, that wasn't really our call.  I mean, it was if we wanted to be arbitrarily dictatorial about it.  But there were multiple requests made in other threads and via PMs for people to be situated next to each other.  In trying to facilitate that, it became what it was.

Actually, at one point, there were multiple requests to be near a specific piece of gear (a Master 7 I believe), which had me thinking about organizing tables in a star pattern instead of linearly around the room.  Ultimately, we realized that while that would have been logistically clever, it would have been practically stupid.   :))

We'll see how long the existing meet model is able to last. It's not just attendees, but also vendors who are getting sick of things. It seems to me that a few major players were starting to reel back their intentiveness.

Really?  Who?  If you're able to share (privately if need be), I'm always willing to listen.  :)

Despite appearances, there were some very concrete reasons for why certain exhibitors could not make it, or alternatively did not have as sizable a presence this time around.  We knew this far in advance, and completely understand.

That said, I know that having so many events spaced so closely together taxed some exhibitors far more than in previous years.  Starting with the next event, there will be a much more reasonable schedule moving forward, with adequate time to focus more on quality than quantity.

Again, suggestions would be helpful, appreciated, and most definitely considered.  Thanks!
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Re: 2014 Woodland Hills Meet - Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #17 on: August 11, 2014, 06:07:58 AM »

Again, suggestions would be helpful, appreciated, and most definitely considered.  Thanks!

I think the big room is a good idea as it was right next to registration.

For me, I can only attribute the foot traffic to location, location, location!  Stuff located at the very end of any meet always gets the least flow.  Same thing happened each year when we did the Bay area meets which I think you were in the far room yourself of our first one in '13?  Hell, I didn't even get down to those rooms till I eventually had to use the restroom myself and passed by them lol.

There is never a perfect answer though.
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Re: 2014 Woodland Hills Meet - Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #18 on: August 11, 2014, 06:13:30 AM »

Warren, I had a great time myself. Really. It's just kind of a feeling I got from walking around I guess. Makes me yearn for the mini-meet atmosphere. It all could have very well been Darth Anax clouding my mind with visions of hate and PWD treble greyness.

I heard there isn't going to be another big meet until next spring, so maybe Head-Fi can put together a non-vendor meet sometime between now and then? Y'know enough people to fill a big room. Just throwing it out there, I know you guys have to spend a lot of time organizing. I appreciate any sort of opportunity to get together with people and listen to all the gear out there. Don't mean to come off as ungrateful or bitchy.
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Re: 2014 Woodland Hills Meet - Stream of Consciousness
« Reply #19 on: August 11, 2014, 06:23:57 AM »

I didn't spend much time in them, but that really big room and the first small room (where Woo was) were both really loud.  I'm surprised people could get decent impressions in there.  It was pretty crazy how few people came into the two member rooms at the end...I was in Frank's room for an hour or two and there were probably between 0-5 people visiting that room at a time while I was there.  I didn't really mind our room not getting many visitors though since that seemed to make it easier for everybody with a rig there to talk to each other.

For my tastes there are just too many vendors now.  I like the past approach more: invite the local vendors (ie. Audeze, Donald, Luis, Schiit, Darin, MrSpeakers, etc.) and the HF-grown vendors (ie. Headamp, RSA, Cavalli, etc.) more than having tons of vendors.  I guess it's just kind of different for me to see reps and salesmen for largish companies and some seemingly random or not headphone specific vendors at a meet.  I'm not even suggesting you change things because I think you guys should do it however you want to since you put this big event together.  Just being honest about the way I've seen things the last 2 times since you're interested in hearing our opinions.  :)p5
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