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Re: Fostex T50RP Paradox frequency response and comparisons
« Reply #20 on: August 16, 2012, 12:57:12 PM »
Quote from: LFF on November 29, 2011, 11:06:00 PM
Quote from: rhythmdevils on November 29, 2011, 09:45:10 PM
So with your compensation, are you aiming for the ideal to be a flat line like it is with speakers?  As opposed to the Headroom and Innerfidelity graphs that have compensation, but still need to be interpreted (they're not actually "zeroed out" with the human ear and ideal is still not flat)

The reason I ask is because LFF says his T50rp's are really flat, and I've never seen an HP graph as flat as those.  Other graphs would show "ideal looking dips and peaks"

Good question.

That's how they sound to me....flat.

There are going to be 10 pairs in the wild after Friday.  :)  Hopefully some show up at meets.

The problem with the term flat is that, even when you take an objective stance, there are multiple ways to achieve flat; free field, diffuse field, and so on. The culture of frequency compensation (to make it easier for people who don't understand headphone graphs) only allows one of these to "look flat".

It certainly looks that they are  neutral to this HRTF, while something else could be neutral to another
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Re: Fostex T50RP Paradox, LCD-2, LCD-3 Frequency Response
« Reply #21 on: September 12, 2012, 06:45:50 AM »
How much for a pair of these Paradox mods? Are there any threads with a list of all the mods done for this particular version?
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Re: Fostex T50RP Paradox, LCD-2, LCD-3 Frequency Response
« Reply #22 on: September 12, 2012, 06:54:32 AM »
Quote from: doublea71 on September 12, 2012, 06:45:50 AM
How much for a pair of these Paradox mods? Are there any threads with a list of all the mods done for this particular version?

you can pm LFF for it. and there are no list of mods done for the Paradox
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Re: Fostex T50RP Paradox, LCD-2, LCD-3 Frequency Response
« Reply #23 on: November 30, 2012, 07:14:55 AM »
Is the Paradox mod open for experimentation or super secret sauce?

(Because I will be scoring some cheap T50RP.)
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Re: Fostex T50RP Paradox, LCD-2, LCD-3 Frequency Response
« Reply #24 on: November 30, 2012, 08:29:25 PM »
very secret sauce, indeed!

(I do have some idea of what might be involved based on the measurements here and @Innerfidelity, but for LFF's sake I shall not post further speculation...)
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Re: Fostex T50RP Paradox, LCD-2, LCD-3 Frequency Response
« Reply #25 on: December 08, 2012, 11:24:27 PM »
Quote from: Dyaems on September 12, 2012, 06:54:32 AM
you can pm LFF for it. and there are no list of mods done for the Paradox

I thought referencesounds.com was made by LFF making it more official than a forum PM. Or is it someone else's take on making the Paradox?
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Re: Fostex T50RP Paradox, LCD-2, LCD-3 Frequency Response
« Reply #26 on: December 10, 2012, 01:50:19 AM »
Purrin, did you listen to the Mad Dogs as well? And if so, what is your take on the Mad Dogs vs LFF's Paradox? They are obviously quite different, but the FR of the Mad Dogs does not look too out of sorts. I am also curious about Paradox and/or Mad Dogs vs HD600/650.
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Re: Fostex T50RP Paradox, LCD-2, LCD-3 Frequency Response
« Reply #27 on: December 10, 2012, 06:17:34 AM »
Quote from: CCS on December 10, 2012, 01:50:19 AM
Purrin, did you listen to the Mad Dogs as well? And if so, what is your take on the Mad Dogs vs LFF's Paradox? They are obviously quite different, but the FR of the Mad Dogs does not look too out of sorts. I am also curious about Paradox and/or Mad Dogs vs HD600/650.

I have both (well, waiting on my MDs to return) and can offer up some comparisons later. The MDs in their current state are much closer to the Paradox than you might think.
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Re: Fostex T50RP Paradox, LCD-2, LCD-3 Frequency Response
« Reply #28 on: December 10, 2012, 02:17:21 PM »
Quote from: hans030390 on December 10, 2012, 06:17:34 AM
Quote from: CCS on December 10, 2012, 01:50:19 AM
Purrin, did you listen to the Mad Dogs as well? And if so, what is your take on the Mad Dogs vs LFF's Paradox? They are obviously quite different, but the FR of the Mad Dogs does not look too out of sorts. I am also curious about Paradox and/or Mad Dogs vs HD600/650.

I have both (well, waiting on my MDs to return) and can offer up some comparisons later. The MDs in their current state are much closer to the Paradox than you might think.

I would appreciate that. Please share your thoughts sometime after you get your MDs back. Thanks.
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Re: Fostex T50RP Paradox, LCD-2, LCD-3 Frequency Response
« Reply #29 on: December 10, 2012, 03:05:04 PM »
I am sorry, but I have to say that I would prefer measurements. Of the Mad Dogs compared to the Paradox. I have learned to mistrust impressions. Not only because I have found out that every too often I have not been able to share people's impressions once I heard praised headphones myself. Also, because I have learned it it's NOT sensible to trust your impressions of a specific headphone at a specific time in specific situations. If you unconsiously want something to sound great, it will. And only over time you realize that you did not get the right picture.
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