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Re: Best DAP in terms of audio quality?
« Reply #51 on: November 01, 2014, 08:48:54 AM »

Jebus that's a half year of mortgage payments right there...
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Re: Best DAP in terms of audio quality?
« Reply #52 on: January 25, 2015, 04:08:11 PM »

Hmm, given a choice.

Would would guys rather have a geekout 450 only or a leckerton UHS only?

Just bought a roxxane on an amazing deal, thinking of something portable to use it with it My D42 mamba seems abit lackluster.
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Re: Best DAP in terms of audio quality?
« Reply #53 on: January 25, 2015, 06:18:28 PM »

My D42 mamba seems abit lackluster.

I liked this thing a lot when I had it. Not compared to better offers though so I'm interested in comparison between this Ibasso and better offers.
« Last Edit: January 26, 2015, 08:23:04 PM by Sorrodje »
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Re: Best DAP in terms of audio quality?
« Reply #54 on: January 25, 2015, 08:38:53 PM »

@rotijon

do you need an all in one solution?

if you like the geek 450 get the plastic pono.  I owned both for 2 weeks and A/Bing with my UERMs and with/out my piccolo amp, the geek had slightly better separation and timber but I could only tell when they were right next to each other.  Get the plastic I had the metal and it felt cheap as hell. things to worry about:
 
ui is slightly better(if not as bad as) the first gen ak100+ak120
battery life is like 7 hours with 16bit flac


I don't recommend anything with digital volume as every manufacture tries to find a middle ground between full size cans and iems so unless you listen really loud volumes you will be at the lower end of the volume and the dynamics and soundstage will suck (yes I am aware that both the geek and pono have digital volume control but I was attempting to work at your reference point). but if you insist on a modern dap here my opinions

ak240-does nothing wrong pretty neutral and dynamic for a dap (and guess what the new ak100 &120 II sound almost exactly the same<single ended>)

old ak100 &120 - yeah even without the mods sound slightly better???? they have more bottom end but overall not to far from the newer models

calyx M- its so warmmmmmm if I ever had frostbite in my inner ear I wouldn't reach for a hot pack I would put on some headphones and listen to the calyx.  If you like the warmth of the original lcds this is for you (thought it packs a lot of power so be carefull cus I don't think you'll have that much control of the loudness with iems.  I listen to the roxxanes and I prefer the 16s but they both have this well articulated bass that the calyx would ruin.

if you got cash and are to cool for school (don't care what others think) get a hifiman 901s a little to clean for me but with analog volume control and an amp specific for IEMs this is your best all in one solution.  Great sound stage and separation I could have used some more juice on the lower end but the roxxanes might not need it.  (the 901s is suppose to be the new model that keeps the sonics but fixes a lot of the dap specific issues.

if you don't mind a stack ....


TBC ..... my piccolo amp (never heard the leckertron and only have heard a head-fier give me a indirect comparison with the piccolo: leckerton vs vorzuge pure 2 Winner: vorzuge pure 2 <but warmer than leckerton> (other comparison) vorzuge pure 2 vs piccolo Winner: tie <but piccolo not that warm and when on sale  $560 vs $330>)  works pretty good with my ipod video so I am going to try to take LFFs advice and DYImod the thing to get better sound.
 

*obvious only thinking about sound here other things come into play.  I like a neutral sound sig as clear and dynamic as possible. YMMV
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Re: Best DAP in terms of audio quality?
« Reply #55 on: January 26, 2015, 04:42:15 AM »

The Questyle QP1 and QP1 Pro are apparently slated to come out in the spring for $699 and $999 respectively, *sort of* reasonably priced in today's insane world of DAPs.

No Sabre, but a Cirrus, and the important thing is that they've stuck their current output mode amplification in the device, so at least it's not like every other device out there.

From everything I've seen about Questyle's engineering, it's at least got a solid foundation, and they have specific performance standards for themselves, at least for their desktop devices.

The chassis and assembly are supposed to be done by Foxconn in the same factory as the iPhone, so the DAP comes in the same space grey and champagne gold colors as well.

Of course, no one will know whether or not it'll actually turn out to be a good product, but at a glance, it looks promising.
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Re: Best DAP in terms of audio quality?
« Reply #56 on: January 26, 2015, 02:53:56 PM »

Thought I'd chime in here - I've been using the Cowon Plenue 1 to drive my UERM's and I'm pretty pleased with it. It sells for about 1K, but I chose  it for the following:
* Burr-Browning PCM1792A
* 128Gig built in, expandable to > 128Gig via micro SD.
* Dedicated Linux based OS; good UI response, fast play response.

It has a nice analog sound without being warm. Drives the UERM's very well.
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Re: Best DAP in terms of audio quality?
« Reply #57 on: January 26, 2015, 04:18:32 PM »

Thanks for the suggestions guys. Tbh im looking for something cheap.

Although a 901 is available for sale at my end for 700USD

Will need to sell off one of my earphones though, =(

Anyone interested in a six month old mint Se846 ? =D
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Re: Best DAP in terms of audio quality?
« Reply #58 on: January 26, 2015, 04:37:46 PM »

I wasn't impressed with the HM901. Supposedly with balanced module, it's better. If I used IEMs a lot and cared a lot about SQ, I'd try to find a used AK120mki (Wolfson). The AK120mk2/AK240 were a step back in sound quality with the Cirrus D-A chips. The AK120mki recommendation for an all-in-one solution.


The DAC section on the Leckerton sucks compared to GO, but the Leckerton has better amp section. I'd pair them up (GO as DAC + Leckerton as amp). If you don't bind rubber-banding or velcroing those two together - that would be the way to go for great SQ at a really good price.
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Re: Best DAP in terms of audio quality?
« Reply #59 on: January 26, 2015, 08:28:30 PM »

For something cheap (and if you need a decent backup IEM) with a good UI go for the HM601LE + RE400 combo for $150.  Rockbox it, and it's a pretty nice device that can take cheap SD cards.  I liked it more than the X3, especially felt that the amp section was more spacious sounding, and the UI is far more responsive and less bug-prone.
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