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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #10 on: July 01, 2014, 08:40:06 AM »
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #11 on: July 01, 2014, 10:44:04 AM »
Thanks a lot Marv! Very interesting.
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #12 on: July 01, 2014, 11:45:14 AM »
Thanks Marv. Still waiting for my friend to get his pair so that I can finally get to hear them. HiFiMan couldn't make it to the last head-fi meet, so I haven't had any opportunities to try them. Very interested in the he-400i too.
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #13 on: July 01, 2014, 12:08:32 PM »
My problem with the HE-560s, and I didn't even listen to them because of this. Was that when I tried to put them on my head at the Fujiya Avic festival, the cups don't bend back in enough, cause the headband like isn't big enough, the the bottom of the cup doesn't rest flat against my head. The Kingsounds stats did the same thing, and so did the Alphadogs when I tried them this last weekend. Until recently I had never run into this problem, its like all the headphone manufacturers simultaneously decided to discriminate those of us with big heads   :)p18
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #14 on: July 01, 2014, 12:27:31 PM »
Very interested in your subjective impressions and also your thoughts on amp pairing  :)p1
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #15 on: July 01, 2014, 12:38:47 PM »
Don't forget there's another box under the top one.   :)p1

I haven't had much time to listen to the production 560, but it did seem to be very close to the preorder version in terms of sound, minus being a little less warm/thick sounding.  I noted that the preorder 560 what sounded to be like a little peak in the lower treble, but wasn't sure if it was a peak or distortion/resonance.  Looks like what I was hearing was that hump centered 4khz.

I prefer dips at 2khz, which might be why I like the 560 a bit.  Too much 2khz makes headphones sound unnaturally plasticy to me.

Those distortion numbers are really great, wow!
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #16 on: July 01, 2014, 01:05:03 PM »
Thanks for the measurements. The CSD looks weird, you should try swapping the pads (TMR's other pair should have a different type of earpads) and see how that modulates the sound.
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #17 on: July 01, 2014, 01:14:13 PM »
I'm interested to see if that pure pleather of the newer pads vs the perforated velour of the older pads on their undersides makes any difference when it comes to damping and resonance.  No doubt it'll change the FR a little bit too, at least that's what I heard.

Is the 3rd and 4th order harmonics being below -90db part of why these resolve so well?  I haven't really heard of a more detailed headphone, really.  I do know the lower treble bump does bring out a little of emphasis on stringed instruments and their characteristics, but I also know that it doesn't need that 10khz bump to give false definition and detail like a bunch of other headphones.

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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #18 on: July 01, 2014, 01:21:07 PM »
Quote from: TMRaven on July 01, 2014, 01:14:13 PM
I'm interested to see if that pure pleather of the newer pads vs the perforated velour of the older pads on their undersides makes any difference when it comes to damping and resonance.  No doubt it'll change the FR a little bit too, at least that's what I heard.

Is the 3rd and 4th order harmonics being below -90db part of why these resolve so well?  I haven't really heard of a more detailed headphone, really.  I do know the lower treble bump does bring out a little of emphasis on stringed instruments and their characteristics, but I also know that it doesn't need that 10khz bump to give false definition and detail like a bunch of other headphones.



Holy cow yeah the mids and especially the treble distortion figures are really low compared to other headphones, now that you mention it.

Edit: I find it strange that the low/sub-bass distortion figures are fairly meh though, my subjective impressions are quite the opposite, these have pretty spectacular bass quality to my ears. Marv, is the earpad-measurement coupling/seal optimal when you measured?

Kinda funny how both HE560 and PM1 have a little bass control issue around mid-upper bass, with the distortions.
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Re: HiFiMan HE-560 measurements
« Reply #19 on: July 01, 2014, 03:33:21 PM »
Those bass distortion figures are actually quite good. Maybe not the absolute best ever, but I don't think anyone is going to complain with that.
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