Topic: Philips Fidelio X1 (Read 4133 times)

AstralStorm · « **Reply #10 on:** June 14, 2014, 09:40:41 AM »

Oh, considering the graph, these look like a headphone brother to VSonic VC02, as measured by Rin. (and verified personally by myself)
That would put them near top tier, but still won't beat Senn HD600 at the price.

About the IEM: likely has much lower distortion and definitely a bit bass boost with lesser "sharpness" cut (3.5 dB, 2-3k) and a slight boost in shimmer (1.5 dB, 8-10k). Better extended upwards too. Still avoids most sibilance, much better than GR07, UERM (test pair) and UE900, while it's nowhere near as rolled as RE-600 and still easy to equalize to flat.
There is a maybe trace of 14k ringing in it, but too quiet to matter.

Sorrodje · « **Reply #11 on:** June 14, 2014, 09:42:46 AM »

Quote from: Armaegis on June 14, 2014, 01:31:06 AM

Had a chance to hear these a few months back. I'm surprised to see how level the bass is; they seemed far more bass tilted to my ears.

I do agree with CeeTee that these felt kinda boomy to me. Just enough to make it rumbly fun without distracting too much, and I guess that's what made the bass seem elevated to me. I thought the suspension headband was really comfy, but would have liked some softer pads.

I fully agree with above statement. X1's bass sounds a bit boomy but not in a too bad way. somewhat boomy but under control ? Seems odd but it"s how I felt the sound. Anyone else noticed the treble spike ?

Im' a bit more doubtful about HD600/650 comparison though. I owned a HD580 during few month and nothing I heard in the X1 reminded me my old senn that sound far more neutral and full in the the mids/high mids without this bass and treble enhancement. I can't talk about HD650 I only tried during an hour a long time ago. The headphone that came in my mind when I had the X1 is my previous HFI2400 form Ultrasone. the X1 sounded for me as the mid fi fun headphone Ultrasone failed to achieve properly . I really Appreciate the HFI2400 and I gave it to my father but obviously the Ultrasone sound dirty (faster but boomier and with harshness in low treble ) besides the X1.

shipsupt · « **Reply #12 on:** June 14, 2014, 01:20:27 PM »

Tyl's measurements (http://www.innerfidelity.com/content/big-bottom-and-lively-top-philips-fidelio-x1-page-2) certainly show more of a bass hump and warm tilt.

Phillips has nailed build quality, that is for sure.

I had the L1, if the X1 sounds anything like it (Phillips house sound?) it's a great easy listener. I gave mine to my non-audiofool bother and he loves 'em!

Thanks for posting the measurements and impressions.

Deep Funk · « **Reply #13 on:** June 14, 2014, 02:00:45 PM »

Philips before these models had the HP1000 and the SHP9000. I still have the 9000 and it gives me a reason to really consider an additional Philips headphone for "fun" listening. Their premium line is on my list.

Too bad Philips has this "plastic build quality image". Next to AKG, Philips was famous for its house sound.

Solderdude · « **Reply #14 on:** June 14, 2014, 09:25:48 PM »

Sonically I prefer the SHP9000 over the X1.
Mechanically traits and looks go to the X1.
X1 is double the price of the SHP9000

SP9000:

and plot:

Both roll off above 13kHz and to me is their weak point.

this is how Golden Ears measured the X1 (and made me pull the trigger):

Strangely enough this one seems more reference (no dip).

I got mine to sound and measure like this:

It sounded more tonally balanced but not quite right in the upper mids.
Also the missing top-end became even more obvious.

Deep Funk · « **Reply #15 on:** June 15, 2014, 05:24:38 AM »

If you are looking for the portable alternatives to to X1 check out the SHP6000 and SHP8000. They are from the older series but Philips upped the build quality for those headphones. Both can be found between 20 and 50 Euros which makes them a very good deal.

Maxvla · « **Reply #16 on:** June 15, 2014, 06:59:25 AM »

I hear these very similarly to the rest of you. Imprecise, but not bad. I though the clamp was a bit much with how stiff the pads were so I wasn't crazy about the comfort. Won't be on any of my recommend lists, but I couldn't fault someone for liking them.

The L1 sounds remarkably better, IMO, despite it's more U shaped signature. I can forgive the lack of clarity when the goal is clearly to appease the non-audiophile, as with the L1, but when a reasonably neutral headphone has the same fault, as with the X1, I would wish I had the L1 on my head instead. Comfort is better on the L1 as well.

roBernd · « **Reply #17 on:** June 18, 2014, 04:47:47 AM »

I was inclined to buy an X1, but apparently you can not buy replacement pads and I could not find any similar pads. By now, I'm kinda glad I didn't buy them. The one i listened to first was more mean and had less of a treble spike than the recent one I listened to. (They probably has some special equalizer setting when I listened to them first... That said, one could still equalize these phones)

Solderdude · « **Reply #18 on:** June 18, 2014, 05:01:28 AM »

I tried EQ and while it has a similar depth 'dip' at 3.5kHz (but different shape) than T50RP I found that it didn't react well to EQ as the T50RP does.
Didn't try to add the missing top-extension but did measure is above 20kHz and results weren't encouraging.
The missing top extension together with the not well EQ-able dip, made me decide to return the X1.
I already have too much headphones that do not get any usage top keep it.
Didn't notice a 10k spike, in fact mine measured and sounded good in that aspect.

Author Topic: Philips Fidelio X1 (Read 4133 times)

AstralStorm

Re: Philips Fidelio X1

Sorrodje

Re: Philips Fidelio X1

shipsupt

Re: Philips Fidelio X1

Deep Funk

Re: Philips Fidelio X1

Solderdude

Re: Philips Fidelio X1

Deep Funk

Re: Philips Fidelio X1

Maxvla

Re: Philips Fidelio X1

roBernd

Re: Philips Fidelio X1

Solderdude

Re: Philips Fidelio X1

(adsbygoogle = window.adsbygoogle || []).push({});

Author Topic: Philips Fidelio X1 (Read 4133 times)