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Re: Mice & Keyboard Discussion thread (and why Logitech's new mice suck)
« Reply #50 on: January 23, 2015, 06:44:54 AM »
Quote from: No_One411 on January 23, 2015, 05:41:12 AM
Do you use claw or palm grip? I personally really like the Deathadder, but that's a bigger mouse for palm users.

The Logitech mouse has nice custom weights, but is generally more suited for claw grip users.

No problems with build quality with either. Deathadder has been used for over 5 years without any issue.

Hope this helps.


Pretty sure I use claw.. or something close to it. The only part of my palm that touches the mouse is the underside of my middle knuckle. of my hand doesn't even touch the mouse.

My friend is pushing me to get a DeathAdder Black Edition. The RAT used to be his, and he replaced it with the DA Black.

Honestly the only thing keeping me from it right now is wanting a mouse that matches my desktop better visually... I pay more attention to little details like that than I should...
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Re: Mice & Keyboard Discussion thread (and why Logitech's new mice suck)
« Reply #51 on: January 23, 2015, 10:13:52 AM »
Quote from: takato14 on January 23, 2015, 04:10:46 AM
I'm looking into a new mouse. My current one (Cyborg RAT-7) has started developing a phantom double-click...

Don't buy a new mouse: buy a can of DeOxit D100 and see my earlier post in the thread. Only a couple of days ago I restored a not-working-at-all Krone button to fully functional.

Keyboards. My wife is complaining about the noise. I wonder... what to replace my ancient Compaq keyboard with? People rave about "mechanical keyboards," but, aren't they even more noisy?
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Re: Mice & Keyboard Discussion thread (and why Logitech's new mice suck)
« Reply #52 on: January 23, 2015, 04:37:31 PM »
Quote from: Thad E Ginathom on January 23, 2015, 10:13:52 AM
Keyboards. My wife is complaining about the noise. I wonder... what to replace my ancient Compaq keyboard with? People rave about "mechanical keyboards," but, aren't they even more noisy?

Basically, yep. How much louder depends on the switches, but even the quietest switches (something like MX Red) with dampers (rubber O Rings) under the caps is still louder than your average keyboard.

I've got a keyboard with MX blues which are very clicky and loud. Feels great to type on and use, not good for others in the room.
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Re: Mice & Keyboard Discussion thread (and why Logitech's new mice suck)
« Reply #53 on: January 23, 2015, 05:01:52 PM »
Quote from: Thad E Ginathom on January 23, 2015, 10:13:52 AM
Don't buy a new mouse: buy a can of DeOxit D100 and see my earlier post in the thread. Only a couple of days ago I restored a not-working-at-all Krone button to fully functional.

Keyboards. My wife is complaining about the noise. I wonder... what to replace my ancient Compaq keyboard with? People rave about "mechanical keyboards," but, aren't they even more noisy?
A linear switch (MX Black, Red) + o-rings would be a nice choice if noise is an issue, for the mechanical route.
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Re: Mice & Keyboard Discussion thread (and why Logitech's new mice suck)
« Reply #54 on: January 23, 2015, 07:34:45 PM »
Thanks both.

I suppose I might get used to the keyboards that are more like a laptop, with little spring pressure and small travel. I have used laptops but only for short periods of time.

I'm not sure that my Compaq isn't "mechanical." It pre-dates "windows" keys, and is so old that I can't remember its origin. It is certainly rather clacky, although perhaps not as much as the old IBM-PC keyboards that I vaguely remember.  It has spent long periods of time in cupboards while other keyboards came, broke, and went. It even seems to survive having stuff piled on top of it in those cupboards.
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Re: Mice & Keyboard Discussion thread (and why Logitech's new mice suck)
« Reply #55 on: January 23, 2015, 07:59:02 PM »
Topres are quieter than most mechanical keyboards, especially if you get the silent version.

http://elitekeyboards.com/products.php?sub=topre_keyboards

Comparison video of mx blue and topre:

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Re: Mice & Keyboard Discussion thread (and why Logitech's new mice suck)
« Reply #56 on: January 23, 2015, 08:13:10 PM »
hello,

you can also find recordings of various mechanical keyboards here:

https://geekhack.org/

(caution: this may just be the Changstar for keyboard geeks.)

i have been using one of these for about a decade:

http://pckeyboard.com/page/UKBD/UB40P4A

(loud, but as far as i can tell, unbreakable.)
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Re: Mice & Keyboard Discussion thread (and why Logitech's new mice suck)
« Reply #57 on: January 24, 2015, 06:36:44 AM »
Quote from: thegunner100 on January 23, 2015, 07:59:02 PM
Comparison video of mx blue and topre:

Night and day difference. I thought that the Topre had something of a veiled sound, whereas the mx is obviously very forward in the upper mids and highs. I am sure that the latter would fatigue Mrs G's ears and my fingers!

Of course, watching a Youtube video it is not possible to do any sort of a level-matched test, but I thought that the mx sounded more like my Ancient Compaq. I don't know that, sound-wise, it would be anything of an upgrade for me --- and, if even louder, might even require a change of other equipment such as moving from open- to closed-back 'phones.

Of course, my Ancient Compaq has a PS2 connector. Infinitely preferable to the grainy, digital sound of today's USB interfaces. A cable upgrade helps, but cannot come anywhere near the natural analogue sound of the PS2. This may be more obvious on some systems than others, but those who say that it cannot make a difference will always be those who haven't tried it, so how can they  know?

But seriously, thanks for the video (I now know to avoid mechanical) and other links. I never dreamt there could be so much geekdom about keyboards!   

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Re: Mice & Keyboard Discussion thread (and why Logitech's new mice suck)
« Reply #58 on: January 24, 2015, 07:03:10 AM »
I'm about ready to trade my leopold and older black widow ultimate, both MX blues for something quieter like the "silent" topres or the matias. I do more typing at work and I can't use either keyboard in the workplace due to an open layout.
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Re: Mice & Keyboard Discussion thread (and why Logitech's new mice suck)
« Reply #59 on: January 24, 2015, 01:14:57 PM »
Matias Quiet switches are great! Nice feedback and quiet operation.  ;D
If you type A LOT I would look at the Ergo Pro -> http://matias.ca/ergopro/pc/
It's expensive, but much cheaper than building an ergoDox.
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