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Re: Mice & Keyboard Discussion thread (and why Logitech's new mice suck)
« Reply #40 on: September 29, 2014, 09:25:37 AM »

re-tensioning the spring is the other suggestion on the net. My tension seemed ok, and I was very careful not to displace the spring, as replacing it looked like it would be tough job for imperfect eyes, even though I had an optician make for me what I call "engineering" glasses with which I can do some work with small components.

Even if re-tensioning, I'd go for contact cleaning too.

I'm a recent convert to Deoxit, though, and of course, when one has a can, everything looks like a dirty contact  :)p8
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Re: Mice & Keyboard Discussion thread (and why Logitech's new mice suck)
« Reply #41 on: November 10, 2014, 07:40:45 PM »

I can vouch for the Roccat Kone. Get the Military Edition though, as that has the newer ADNS-3310 sensor and doesn't suffer from high liftoff distance problems common to the 3090 sensor. Mind you, a high liftoff distance isn't always a bad thing depending on what aiming style you use, but with the 3310 you can customize liftoff distance anyway. Also, the Kone is a very small mouse, and if you use a palm grip, it's not recommended unless you have small hands. It's really more of a finger grip mouse, you can claw it, but it's not ideal for that too.

I also liked the Mionix Avior 7000, though its implementation of the 3310 sensor didn't seem as good as the Kone's. Supposedly it doesn't run the sensor at the native DPI and it jitters at higher DPI as a result. I don't use high DPI but either way, the Kone's tracking feels better. The Avior is superbly ergonomic though and not just for my weird grip. It seems like a very nice all-around mouse, and ergonomics are always more important than sensor performance.

Keyboard-wise I got a G710+, the rationale being that MX Browns actuate in the middle and should give a faster response than switches that actuate at the bottom. That, and my old vitange keyboard actuated in the middle too. The Logitech isn't bad, the switches feel alright, and having a heavier, more secure base helps in keeping things in place too, but my ancient NEC keyboard from 1997 felt better. Too bad a cup of tea ended that story.

Also, a protip (as if I'm a pro these days in any way shape or form...) if you want the effect of not having a numpad and you play shooters, stop using WASD for movement. Try using something like YGHJ, you'll have more keys around you to bind stuff, and you can have a shorter distance between left/right hands and a more comfortable setup all-around. Though depending on your keyboard, you may run into issues with limitations on the number of simultaneous keypresses, which will necessitate the use of keys like shift for walk/run toggles, etc.

Then, there's Russian style, where you keep the keyboard in your lap, and can position the mousepad wherever you want. I don't use it, as most people that use it tend to either use a higher sensitivity or heavy amounts of acceleration, and need less mousepad space and tend to use all wrist aim anyway. But, if you get it to work it can be a very comfortable setup. A lot of top players play this way. I play with moderate sensitivity and no accel, a mix of arm and wrist aim, and the traditional setup works just fine minus some occasional shoulder pains which are common to FPS players in the first place.
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Re: Mice & Keyboard Discussion thread (and why Logitech's new mice suck)
« Reply #42 on: December 16, 2014, 03:14:57 AM »

Yeah, my keyboards are more expensive than my headphones...  walk the plank





Keycool with blacks, Rapid-I with browns and Leopold with blues.
Leopold arrived today, I`m loving it so far. ;D
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Re: Mice & Keyboard Discussion thread (and why Logitech's new mice suck)
« Reply #43 on: December 16, 2014, 04:26:44 AM »

Altrunox,

That combo looks like it belongs on a Hammond XBR. Why would you want this ? Pray educate.
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Re: Mice & Keyboard Discussion thread (and why Logitech's new mice suck)
« Reply #44 on: December 16, 2014, 04:59:47 AM »

I ordered the tenkeyless Leopold with blues since the topre version is so goddam expensive. It will replace my slightly obnoxious original Razer blackwidow ultimate with real deal mx blues.

How do you like the Leopold? I'm apprehensive, its been a while since I was a keyboard dork.
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Re: Mice & Keyboard Discussion thread (and why Logitech's new mice suck)
« Reply #45 on: December 16, 2014, 12:28:34 PM »

Hammond XBR

LOL, I think I need some more to looks like it  :)p13

I ordered the tenkeyless Leopold with blues since the topre version is so goddam expensive. It will replace my slightly obnoxious original Razer blackwidow ultimate with real deal mx blues.

How do you like the Leopold? I'm apprehensive, its been a while since I was a keyboard dork.

I'm loving it so far, build quality is great, and OMG PBT keycaps are a huge improvements over the POM from the keycool and the ABS from the Rapid. Sometimes I'm missing the home and end button, but I should get used to it shortcuts in a while. Since you got the 87 version you should have no problem. I guess you'll like it. IMO build quality is much better than the Razer.

Now I need the Poker with clears and PBT keycaps for the other two  :))
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Re: Mice & Keyboard Discussion thread (and why Logitech's new mice suck)
« Reply #46 on: December 16, 2014, 05:53:33 PM »

I didn't get the 87 version :( . I ordered the FC660M
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Re: Mice & Keyboard Discussion thread (and why Logitech's new mice suck)
« Reply #47 on: December 16, 2014, 08:03:39 PM »

I didn't get the 87 version :( . I ordered the FC660M

Ops, you said TKL I thought it was the 87 version, IMO even better, I`m almost used to the shortcuts, don`t need to move my hands from the wrist rest, very comfortable.
BTW, get a wrist rest if you don`t have one yet
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Re: Mice & Keyboard Discussion thread (and why Logitech's new mice suck)
« Reply #48 on: January 23, 2015, 04:10:46 AM »

Anyone hear about the new ones they have out (G502 Proteus Core and etc)? I'm looking into a new mouse. My current one (Cyborg RAT-7) has started developing a phantom double-click...
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Re: Mice & Keyboard Discussion thread (and why Logitech's new mice suck)
« Reply #49 on: January 23, 2015, 05:41:12 AM »

Anyone hear about the new ones they have out (G502 Proteus Core and etc)? I'm looking into a new mouse. My current one (Cyborg RAT-7) has started developing a phantom double-click...

Do you use claw or palm grip? I personally really like the Deathadder, but that's a bigger mouse for palm users.

The Logitech mouse has nice custom weights, but is generally more suited for claw grip users.

No problems with build quality with either. Deathadder has been used for over 5 years without any issue.

Hope this helps.

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