Topic: Mice & Keyboard Discussion thread (and why Logitech's new mice suck) (Read 8689 times)

thegunner100 · « **on:** May 07, 2014, 03:17:06 AM »

Stemmed from the discussion from the shoutbox.

Just wtf is up with Logitech's new mice (g400, g400s, g500, g500s, etc)?
Their QC has gone to

with the latest generations.

After my G5v2's scrollwheel died from 8 years of service, I've been using my trusty Logitech M310 wireless mouse. It's been going good for about a year now. Excellent battery life, consistent clicks and scrolls, and decent feet. It is compact, but quite ergonomic.

My birthday was a few days ago and my room mate got me a Logitech G500S. Now I was pretty excited to use it but after an hour, my index finger started cramping from the scroll wheel! The scroll wheel is raised quite a bit higher than on the g5v2 and the g400/s. It is also quite loose feeling, and I absolutely hate the hyper scrolling.

A friend of mine had the g500 but after some time he had the double clicking problem and eventually replaced it with a used g5v2. He has been using it for a year with no problems.

Now... he got me the G400S instead yesterday. Now the scrollwheel is more of what I'm used to, although a bit on the stiffer side. However, the left click was so inconsistent with the right! It's stiffer, louder, and vibrates the whole damn mouse. Wtf is up with that?! I'm returning both the G500S and G400S and buying a refurb g5v2 off of ebay instead.

My room mate actually has the G400 right now and though the clicks and scrollwheel seem to be fine, his side button is mushy. Another friend of mine has the g400 for about at least a year, and he has been experiencing the double click problem ocassionally. It's only time before it completely dies.

So, what's up with Logitech's QC on their last two generations of mice? Is it because they're using a cheaper material for their mice, or that their QC section lacks competance?

What mouse and keyboard do you guys use, and what do you guys think of Logitech's new mice and QC problems?

Below are some pics that I took back when I was into the whole keyboard hobby.

1. Logitech G5v2
2. Realforce 87u 55g "Sakura", stock PBT white & pink keys w/ white case. Also a Pink ClickClack Skull (not shown in this pic) - My current favorite keyboard and the one I use at school.
3. Realforce 87u 45g, stock PBT white keys w/ black case - Second favorite, used at home.
4. CM Quickfire Rapid MX Blue, red painted case, imsto red dye-subbed PBT keys
5. CM QUickfire Rapid MX Blue, Engraved white PBT keys

The Alchemist · « **Reply #1 on:** May 07, 2014, 06:26:42 AM »

I am currently using a Thermaltake Level 10 m Mouse:

Also just using a Logitech Illuminated Keyboard as I use my Nostromo N52 TE for gaming (shown Below Keyboard)

Nostromo N52 TE I use for Gaming:

New Mouse from Logitech I REALLY want:

mechgamer123 · « **Reply #2 on:** May 07, 2014, 07:24:16 AM »

Mechanical keyboard masterrace member here!

I have a Ducky Shine 2 with blue LEDs and Cherry MX Blue switches.

I have to agree with gunner about Logitech's new stuff, just not as good as their old stuff. I'm still using the MX revolution I got in 2008. The Performance MX that replaced it is just stupid since they got rid of the awesome scroll wheel on the side that I use to control my music! And it looks like Logitech tried to clone the entire design of this series for gaming mice with the G700s. I went to a friend's house and used his though and it absolutely feels like shit too. All 10-bajillion buttons feel mushy and crappy, and I don't think the construction of the mouse is as good as they used to be.
Also, I have one of the original G15 keyboards (with blue backlighting) I used for a few years before getting the Ducky on reserve in case this thing breaks again and it takes Ducky another 3 months to repair it.

DaveBSC · « **Reply #3 on:** May 07, 2014, 08:09:29 AM »

This is what I use. Every single button is customizable, and you can change DPI settings on the fly or re-map those buttons to do something else. It also comes with several different weights which attach to an open cavity in the bottom of the mouse. Really clever stuff. Everything you customize in the software is also saved into memory on the mouse itself, so once you set it how you like it, you can move it to a different computer and it will maintain everything you set previously.

firev1 · « **Reply #4 on:** May 07, 2014, 09:52:35 AM »

I'm not as l33t as you guys but I do like the good mouse, the Roccat Kone seems to fit what I would like in a mouse if I get one for gaming.

However, I'm looking for performance wireless mice(hopefully logi again) or some good mice+keyboard combo that will work with just one usb adapter. I went through 2 Logitech Mice, one a performance one till it broke, 2 M310s and now a M510 which frankly just sucks balls in ergonomics. Among those I really like the M310s the most, best fit for my hand.

prtuc2 · « **Reply #5 on:** May 07, 2014, 11:56:06 AM »

I share similar experience on the Logitech G500. The left click would starts to double clicks randomly is very hard to select or highlight texts at time. The the elevated palm is too uncomfortable for my small hand.

I got this mouse recently and is much better than the Logitech G500.
http://mionix.net/products/avior-7000/

As far as keyboard I have the Deck Legend linear tactile with Cherry MX Black switches and a DAS Professional edition Cherry MX Blue switches.

shipsupt · « **Reply #6 on:** May 07, 2014, 01:44:11 PM »

Apple keyboard and magic mouse for me!

I'm building another gaming computer for son #2 and grabbed the Logitech G710 mechanical for the build. I haven't received it yet, but hoping it doesn't have some of the same QC issues you guys mentioned about their mice!

jGray91 · « **Reply #7 on:** May 07, 2014, 03:08:40 PM »

I had a gaming mouse once. Not that I use it to game much, but I just want more laziness when browsing. That way I can always have one hand free.

RSI made it not work though. Now on Logitech's M570 trackball. I kind of dislike thumb trackball though.

thegunner100 · « **Reply #8 on:** May 07, 2014, 04:10:54 PM »

Quote from: TheGame on May 07, 2014, 06:26:42 AM

I am currently using a Thermaltake Level 10 m Mouse:

Damn.. you like complex mice haha.

Quote from: mechgamer123 on May 07, 2014, 07:24:16 AM

Mechanical keyboard masterrace member here!
I have a Ducky Shine 2 with blue LEDs and Cherry MX Blue switches.

I have to agree with gunner about Logitech's new stuff, just not as good as their old stuff. I'm still using the MX revolution I got in 2008. The Performance MX that replaced it is just stupid since they got rid of the awesome scroll wheel on the side that I use to control my music! And it looks like Logitech tried to clone the entire design of this series for gaming mice with the G700s. I went to a friend's house and used his though and it absolutely feels like sh1t too. All 10-bajillion buttons feel mushy and crappy, and I don't think the construction of the mouse is as good as they used to be.
Also, I have one of the original G15 keyboards (with blue backlighting) I used for a few years before getting the Ducky on reserve in case this thing breaks again and it takes Ducky another 3 months to repair it.

If I wasn't in love with topre, I'd be using my mx blue quickfires. I used to have a G15 for a couple of years as well, as well as a g15v2 before I switched toa mech keyboard. I used to have a logitech g7 back a while ago, the one with the battery charger and all. Worked well til the batteries started to lose their charge a lot faster.

Quote from: DaveBSC on May 07, 2014, 08:09:29 AM

This is what I use. Every single button is customizable, and you can change DPI settings on the fly or re-map those buttons to do something else. It also comes with several different weights which attach to an open cavity in the bottom of the mouse. Really clever stuff. Everything you customize in the software is also saved into memory on the mouse itself, so once you set it how you like it, you can move it to a different computer and it will maintain everything you set previously.

My friend actually has that and likes it very well.

Quote from: firev1 on May 07, 2014, 09:52:35 AM

I'm not as l33t as you guys but I do like the good mouse, the Roccat Kone seems to fit what I would like in a mouse if I get one for gaming.

However, I'm looking for performance wireless mice(hopefully logi again) or some good mice+keyboard combo that will work with just one usb adapter. I went through 2 Logitech Mice, one a performance one till it broke, 2 M310s and now a M510 which frankly just sucks balls in ergonomics. Among those I really like the M310s the most, best fit for my hand.

The m310 is sweet, isnt it?

ohhgourami · « **Reply #9 on:** May 07, 2014, 04:56:28 PM »

Ducky Shine 1, Shine 2, and Zero reporting in. I really like my Ducky keyboards.

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