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Re: HD800 cable?
« Reply #40 on: April 20, 2014, 11:36:37 PM »

And apparently he's already making it and will ship it tomorrow morning.  :-0

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Re: HD800 cable?
« Reply #41 on: April 26, 2014, 12:24:13 AM »

Got ze cable! Now I can compare OCC (Ted's) and SPC (stock) and see if cables make any audible difference to me. I can already tell the physical differences are significantly better with Ted's. Much lighter and easier to use.

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Re: HD800 cable?
« Reply #42 on: April 26, 2014, 04:56:39 AM »

There is certainly something to be said for cable weight.  Looks like a really nice cable. It is easy to see the high quality of craftsmanship from your picture.  I tried soldering my own cable and it ended up as a mess.  Ted offers his product at a very nice price.  I think copper is a solid improvement over the stock SPC unless you have a really warm front end.

At the local GTA meet I heard a solid core silver cable that I thought sounded very lean.  It is hard to tell at a meet as it could have been the amplifier. I am extremely happy with my Norne Audio Draug cable though.  It isn't as svelte as yours, however the HD800 are light enough that it doesn't bother me.
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Re: HD800 cable?
« Reply #43 on: May 15, 2014, 09:24:15 AM »

Anax, you said you had a problem with that cable but never sent it in to me.  In any case, you had one of few 8 wire HD800 cables I built with that larger copper litz wire and it was not a great fit doing 8 wires for that connector.  The final email to me was you describing your tweaking of the plug and saying you didn't need any more help.  It's not like I wouldn't help you with it if you wanted my help.  The large HD800 plugs are used by everyone now - ALO, Toxic, Moon, Plussound, and everyone in between all use HD800 plugs from Ex-Pro in Hong Kong.  There aren't exactly a ton of options.  The Furutech ones are nothing special, Furutech is making plenty of their plugs in Taiwan now.  In any case, I've had no HD800 plug issues other than yours, maybe we just got bad luck with your plugs.  The ones I"ve seen with "play" move a tiny bit, but this isn't enough to disengage the key or get the pins anywhere near from leaving the socket - I've seen a few fail HD800 plugs in my time and wiggling them still can't make them cut out since the pins are still in the contact and the plugs don't move  wrongfully in any direction except in and out slightly.  With these new plugs you can solder 8 wires per connector if you want, so it's no big deal to solder 4 wires per connector. 

I know you wanted that mini-mini of mine that you saw in a pic, that wasn't a great cable though just a cool looking one, I was in the middle of a move at the time so I've got no clue where it is now; if you wanted something high performing I'd rather mail you some free stuff than you thinking I'm a douchebag or something. 
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Re: HD800 cable?
« Reply #44 on: May 15, 2014, 03:50:43 PM »

Anax, you said you had a problem with that cable but never sent it in to me.  In any case, you had one of few 8 wire HD800 cables I built with that larger copper litz wire and it was not a great fit doing 8 wires for that connector.  The final email to me was you describing your tweaking of the plug and saying you didn't need any more help.  It's not like I wouldn't help you with it if you wanted my help.  The large HD800 plugs are used by everyone now - ALO, Toxic, Moon, Plussound, and everyone in between all use HD800 plugs from Ex-Pro in Hong Kong.  There aren't exactly a ton of options.  The Furutech ones are nothing special, Furutech is making plenty of their plugs in Taiwan now.  In any case, I've had no HD800 plug issues other than yours, maybe we just got bad luck with your plugs.  The ones I"ve seen with "play" move a tiny bit, but this isn't enough to disengage the key or get the pins anywhere near from leaving the socket - I've seen a few fail HD800 plugs in my time and wiggling them still can't make them cut out since the pins are still in the contact and the plugs don't move  wrongfully in any direction except in and out slightly.  With these new plugs you can solder 8 wires per connector if you want, so it's no big deal to solder 4 wires per connector. 

I know you wanted that mini-mini of mine that you saw in a pic, that wasn't a great cable though just a cool looking one, I was in the middle of a move at the time so I've got no clue where it is now; if you wanted something high performing I'd rather mail you some free stuff than you thinking I'm a douchebag or something. 

Nah, perhaps you might have missed some of my emails as I reply to conversations rather than making new ones.  The email you refer to was my response after waiting for feedback on a couple prior emails that I assumed you just brushed off.  Obviously I'm not going to send out a cable I paid for to a blackhole without knowing if it will be received since I have no response.  I think this is the first time I've heard back since 4/18/2013 based on my records.  I'm sure it was just miscommunication and/or I probably got caught up with the SHOW so couldn't part with them at the time.  I'm glad to see you here now taking the time to address the issue because I like the cable. 

I know for a fact it is the poor tolerance causing the issue because when it cuts out I have to unplug the connector, straighten the pins a few micrometers by best guess and eyeball, then add more tape or nail polish to lock in the connector gap.  Once it starts to wiggle, bam it goes out again.  Feel free to pm me if you want to help me sort this out as I'm tired of messing with it for the 15th time.

I'll say this, my Peptide was clearly better sounding with more clarity and all that good stuff compared to the Wywires cable I tired at the meet we had a week ago.  That's why I still use it despite the niggles.
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Re: HD800 cable?
« Reply #45 on: May 19, 2014, 05:58:54 PM »

Anaxilus have you tried making a shim of some sort? That fixed wiggle problems i had with my old connectors. There was no cutting out but it bugged me none the less, i feared it might damage the connector. So basically some pieces of paper with a hole in it or a thin piece of cardboard to stabilize the connector.

In the end though i ordered some furutech connectors, i really like the screw for strain relief but quality control wasn't so good it seems. Don't get me wrong though they fit very snug(more so then stock) and have no wiggle at all but one of them was too snug. I could not get it over the white piece inside the connector without a lot of force. If it did get in there it would not be coming out, so in the end i had to use a drill to scrape the insides on the plug out a bit.

I hope they think of something better for their next flagship or perhaps everyone starts using mini-xlr's or something but thats wishful thinking.
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Re: HD800 cable?
« Reply #46 on: May 19, 2014, 06:44:46 PM »

Anaxilus have you tried making a shim of some sort?

Yes, many times.  Paper, tape, they all wear out pretty quickly.  Nail polish lasted the longest so far.
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Re: HD800 cable?
« Reply #47 on: May 19, 2014, 07:03:25 PM »

I'll just mail you something that's up to date.  PM me your address and length/amp connection.
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Re: HD800 cable?
« Reply #48 on: May 22, 2014, 08:04:09 PM »

Well shiver me timbers I may have to look into a dual xlr cable for hd800 real soon.

I had a super nice DHC cable once upon a time - I don't think I've ever seen one come up for sale in the used market that was as nice :(

Anyone have any take on the plain jane cardas cable?  The clear line looks nice but seems stupidly expensive.  My guess is it will be on the heavier side of cable.

Alternatively re-terminating the stock cable is definitely an option but needing to be dual XLR not sure how it would look at the split.
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Re: HD800 cable?
« Reply #49 on: May 22, 2014, 09:25:12 PM »

Well shiver me timbers I may have to look into a dual xlr cable for hd800 real soon.

I had a super nice DHC cable once upon a time - I don't think I've ever seen one come up for sale in the used market that was as nice :(

Anyone have any take on the plain jane cardas cable?  The clear line looks nice but seems stupidly expensive.  My guess is it will be on the heavier side of cable.

Alternatively re-terminating the stock cable is definitely an option but needing to be dual XLR not sure how it would look at the split.

I have a "plain Jane Cardas" balanced cable (2x3-pin XLR) that I'm not using.  Happy to send it to you to try out.  PM me if interested.
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