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Re: ESP-9 revisited
« Reply #10 on: March 11, 2014, 12:50:37 AM »

Neat stuff. I love how that ancient Koss stuff was built.
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Re: ESP-9 revisited
« Reply #11 on: March 11, 2014, 01:09:50 AM »

Neat stuff. I love how that ancient Koss stuff was built.

Thanks!
Koss is an unusual company in some ways: I remember the surprise (almost shock) when I unwrapped the ESP-950 I bought on eBay some time ago, and read on the side of the box “Life long waranty”  Who gives life long warranty??!!

Unplanned, I have become a complete Kossman, using the EQ-ed 950 for daily listening , ESP 9 for occasional fun (& pain), and using the great little Porta Pro for my electrical violin + rare portable use. Olaf

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Re: ESP-9 revisited
« Reply #12 on: March 11, 2014, 01:46:56 AM »



The left side connection board. Looks slightly chaotic at first glance, but is (almost dissapointingly) simple, because the close 2 couples of leads are only links: One of the  blacks +  the white are just sent on to the other cup. Yellow is the common ground (shared by one stator in each driver).Silver in the middle is bias voltage for this cup, and green the other stator in this cup.

The boards are interchangeable between left and right cups, which means the you can sometimes  put togheter a decent ESP-9 from units partly out of order. I belive that all boards from ESP-7 to ESP-9B are interchangeable.


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Re: ESP-9 revisited
« Reply #13 on: September 24, 2014, 07:41:26 PM »

Just found this thread and group while researching information to decide whether to upgrade from my ESP9b to ESP950 phones.  I am very happy with my 9b system and they are a might unusual as they are the last pair made by Koss

In late '89, Koss advertised it was cleaning out its warehouse full of old inventory of obsolete phones and listed a number of models available.  In hindsight I should have stocked up.  There were no ESP models listed so, I called Koss and spoke with the receptionist and explained I was looking for a set of 9s.  She was unfamiliar with the model and they, nor any ESPs showed up on the inventory.  She asked what they were and I explained.  She them said to hold on and she was going to transfer me to her boyfriend who was a service technician.  Turns out, as part of the selloff the company was also reducing its inventory of parts on these old phones.  The tech said he had amassed enough parts to make 2 sets of the 9b phones and was assembling on for himself.  There were enough parts for one more set.  After going back and forth with a couple of persons I worked out a price for the phones and gave them my cc info.

About a month later I received the package complete with graph and a note that they did not fall under the new lifetime warranty.  But all was not good as the faceplate for the energizer was missing and the sealed stickon for it with the ESP9b model was included.  I called and spoke with the tech who said when he went to assemble this last pair, he realized there were no remaining faceplate so he assembled them as received though he thought about canceling the order and keeping the parts as spare for his set.  At the time he said no replacement parts whatsoever were available as the last of each was used for mine.  Sadly, over the years I have lost the letter and invoice.

Other than the common separation of the plastic headband piece separating and very recently opening the box to tighten screws to get rid of hum that had been creeping in, they have worked flawlessly.  As these are so much newer than all others save the tech's, hopefully I'll not need to open them up for a number of years.  Even the liquid filled cups are good.

I am still thinking about a set of 950s as it seems from reading the intervening are not as well regarded as the 9s.  I am looking for another set of phones for another system and am not ruling out another set of 9bs or 9s.
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Re: ESP-9 revisited
« Reply #14 on: September 25, 2014, 12:11:35 AM »

You were very lucky!
The main difference between the ESP9 and the ESP950:

The vintage model(s) have a much cleaner sound but are biased towards the mids, and are crying for EQ.  (Then they can compete with anything out there IMO, but EQ-ing will put limits to max volume).

The ESP950 is more balanced and a good, pleasant all-rounder, but more resonant/less clean. They are night and day when it comes to weight & comfort..


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Re: ESP-9 revisited
« Reply #15 on: September 25, 2014, 01:01:00 AM »

While this is up, may I mention one simple way to make the ESP9 compatible with the newer type Koss energizer, or via the well-known plug adapter, directly with Stax amps? Just use the  ESP950 extension cable, clip or rip off all the components on the  connection board and solder the stuff together as in the picture..

Now you do not longer have the frequency correction build into the old system, so you will need still more (and carefully applied) EQ.





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Re: ESP-9 revisited
« Reply #16 on: March 11, 2015, 05:16:46 AM »

Hi @chetlanin,
i have just received an original Koss ESP 9 for few days (from ebay). First time listening it was very distortion, but after I removed old foams the distortion gone (I didn't insert new foam, just clean). Its sound is amazing. Yesterday while I'm listening with AC mode, suddenly the sound was too low like using SE mode. I turned off the ampli and disconnect the energizing from AC. After few minutes I listened again, the headphone's sound was good like before. But today I can only hear the right clearly, it's OK, no buzz or hum. But the left is all of buzz follow music (if I stop playing music, both right and left have no hum or buzz).
Could you help me how to find the reasons and fix it?
This is my energizing, if it help


Thank you.
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Re: ESP-9 revisited
« Reply #17 on: March 11, 2015, 06:00:41 AM »

Let me be the first to congratulate you on a truly awesome thread. Note to pirates: give this chap some karma points!

Done, and well deserved!

Let me also say that Koss is among Sennheiser as being the most represented company in my headphone collection. Love them and fantasize of their resurgence someday.
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Re: ESP-9 revisited
« Reply #18 on: March 11, 2015, 09:14:17 AM »

LOL (hackus supremus). And/but thanks for the generous adding of points, Anax!

I may be KHS, but cannot give a definite answer to the problem, die_for_rock_vn.
Except perhaps mention that the weakest components in the old energizers seem to be the two small "bias" transformers - those on the "second floor" in your picture. I have experienced several E9 units having broken down after a few hours of work. Probably- before being sold on ebay- these units had been in storage for many years. The treads in the coils of the 2
transformers are thin like human hairs, and if the copper in a few places had been
exposed to air, they may simply have corroded into a shadow of their old thickness,
unable to stand vibration or current for more than a short time. (The larger signal transformers are OTOH much more reliable, and the signal circuit rather robust).
You seem to have a rather old version of the E9 energizer (but not the most original).
If the problem endures, the simplest solution may be to try to find a newer and better working energizer. They got improved over the years, with less hum and better reliability. An E9b - the latest version- would be particularly well worth looking after, I think.
Good luck, anyway.


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In the beginning, when my first energizer unit broke down. I managed to build an
external device supplying the needed 200V AC instead of the broken down transformers.
(this voltage goes into the voltage multiplier section on the component board, where it
is turned into the high bias voltage). A rather clean AC signal (of say 50-60Hz)  is
needed, because it is not isolated from the signal circuit, so any noticeable amount of
higher harmonics will be heard through the phones. OTOH current demand is very small.
Perhaps one can buy some suitable small signal generators for this use, I don't know.

I did the DIY version in a hurry and the unit became rather clumsy, but worked well until I
could find a good E9 energizer. It consisted of a low voltage DIY AC sinus
generator based on a couple of transistors and capacitors, a complete miniature
amplifier board from ebay costing next to nothing, and a couple of quality transformers
stolen from an old Stax SRD unit laying about. Using the volume control of the small amp
allowed me to get exactly the right voltage out from the secondary of the transformers.

One could build the simpler Stax type bias supply instead, I suppose, but for use with the peculiar Koss arrangement one would need two of them.
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Re: ESP-9 revisited
« Reply #19 on: March 11, 2015, 11:22:41 AM »

Thank you chetlanin,
My Koss Esp9 had been in storage from 1970 before being sold on eBay.
I'm going to disassemble both energizer and headphone to check every transformers, capacitors, diodes,.. Hope no problem with transformers. I'm living in Vietnam and it's hard to find someone can fix this old stuff.
Anw, I have a Sennheiser HD 540 Reference and its sound is good enough for me.
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