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Re: AKG K701 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #20 on: August 26, 2012, 05:25:44 AM »

Here's K701 left channel, but at 95db instead of 90db. Broad D2 increase in bass, including upper bass. D3 is just too high over 0.1% to 800Hz.
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Re: AKG K701 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #21 on: May 13, 2013, 09:42:43 PM »

I just got a used pair of the K702 65th Anniversary Edition. I've never heard anything from AKG before. I think these sound pretty nice overall. Apparently the pads are different (confirmed) and the drivers are cherry-picked and closely matched (AKG's claim). I have heard that this edition is bassier, warmer, smoother, etc. from folks on Head-Fi.

The bass does not sound as rolled off to me as the K701 graphs suggest, so the bass claims might be true. They sound more in line with how I remember the HD598 sounding in that regard. I think they could still use a touch more lower bass. The treble also sounds pretty smooth and not exaggerated, which I like. I was afraid they might be too bright or lacking in bass for my tastes, but so far I've been pleased.

I fairly certain that ~2KHz bump is there, just like in the K701 graphs. My ears find it to be pretty nasty, though I primarily listen to heavier music that can be easily harsh on the ears (ex: Opeth at loud volumes). EQ helps a bit, and I've also tried experimenting with different damping materials in front of the drivers to see if I can tame it. I've made it a bit better to my ears already, though it's hard to target that exact area without affecting other stuff.

Still not sure I'm going to keep them in the long run, but I am liking them so far aside from that 2KHz bump. I got them for close to $300, and they might be appropriately priced around there at most. Can't say I'd recommend them at their $500 MSRP.

Apologies for bumping an older thread, but I wasn't sure this warranted a new thread.
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Re: AKG K701 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #22 on: June 20, 2013, 04:46:54 PM »

I recently got a chance to play with pair of k702 friend traded me. Still felt the same that I did when I remembered the k701. Didn't sound bad but had had a bite to them which bothered my ears with certain tracks and the vocals sounded bit odd. Since they're completey open air there is no point to mess with the back of the driver for modding. What I did was messed with front to get them sounding to my liking.

The pads have a protective screen and well distanted from my ears so what I did was cut some r-19 fiberglass which is not very desne into an octagon like shape. Then I placed it over the already disc foam and put the pads back on. Yea I know people logically will say "well that will muffle the sound. Fiberglass or any acoustic damping should only be implied to back of driver"

Well not exactly. Depends on density and other things as well. If yused a bit of imagination you can "see" the frequencies only slowing down and help absorb backwave resonance of the ear. Well what did my idea do out of pure curiosity?

put the pads back on and...yay! Became bit more evened out where I got the midrange and higher frequencies to my liking. Without limiting bass output as well. I notice these have pretty good bass and sub-bass extension. Also now I can listen to songs without the bite as well. They still extend upwards fairly well but more tame and enjoyable defiantly. I actually like them now. Thing I do like about the k702 as well is their insensetivity. Sound dead quiet running off of speaker outputs. Just the pads hurt back of my ears after wearing them for very long which is odd cause they are extremely light and the pads are super comfty. Probably how the back end of the pads couple my ears maybe
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Re: AKG K701 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #23 on: June 20, 2013, 09:21:01 PM »

K702 Alien Mod 1.0  :-0
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Re: AKG K701 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #24 on: June 21, 2013, 12:02:35 AM »

I swapped out the foam disc in front of the drivers for a different material. I think it was a type of felt. I can't remember. I got the idea from a mod on HF, in which a quarter of the ring is cut out separately, covered with a layer of electrical tape on one side, and put back in place with the rest of the ring. I've also been experimenting with using a larger foam disc that goes over the felt ring (covers hole in middle as well).

I also more or less sealed the small middle part on the back of the headphone (the part that protrudes). I believe this took the bump around 2.2KHz and lowered it to around 2KHz or so and made it less pronounced. Overall, it gave the K702 AE more of a V-shaped signature than before without messing up the original sound or balance much. It's easier to listen to for me than stock. I haven't listened to them in a while, though, so it would be good for me to go back and see how they sound now. Plus, I don't have other headphones on hand to compare with at the moment.

Keep in mind this is with the K702 65th AE, so the pads are different than some of the other K70x revisions.

Seems like it's a pretty decent headphone with some minor issues that AKG could have fixed with a bit more time and research. The 65th AE pads seem to be a good step in that direction, I guess...
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Re: AKG K701 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #25 on: June 21, 2013, 05:20:29 PM »

I think the foam disc is a good thing in the headphone. Some reason akg knows what they're doing with the acoustic material and found it do well to keep the the bass output evened out. I think the dome section of the driver needed bit extra damping. My friend did that mod I believe but with type wool felt or something but all I heard was it covering up the midrange issue by warming it up a bit.

The k702 not bad headphone at all and like them. Just found some slight issues with the midrange to take care of. I fixed them though and got it way I like them.
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Re: AKG K701 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #26 on: June 21, 2013, 05:25:56 PM »

K702 Alien Mod 1.0  :-0

REX 702, brought to you by Ancient Alien Corporations.
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Re: AKG K701 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #27 on: June 21, 2013, 05:51:37 PM »

I agree that the K702 is a good headphone based on my experience with the anniversary edition. I think the new pads primarily help boost the bass a bit. That ~2KHz spike is still there, though, and I couldn't believe how grating that ended up being on my ears after a while. Honestly, that's my only complaint with them stock.

I might have to try out your fiberglass idea. Do you think that helps fix that problem area?

It's interesting modding these headphones, because it's more about damping in front of the drivers. Much easier than digging around inside cups. :)
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Re: AKG K701 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #28 on: June 21, 2013, 05:56:24 PM »

Now I wonder how the k712 will sound. Its supposedly bassier due to the memory foam. Looks beautiful  :)p5

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Re: AKG K701 Frequency Response and CSD Waterfall Plots
« Reply #29 on: June 22, 2013, 12:32:11 AM »

I agree that the K702 is a good headphone based on my experience with the anniversary edition. I think the new pads primarily help boost the bass a bit. That ~2KHz spike is still there, though, and I couldn't believe how grating that ended up being on my ears after a while. Honestly, that's my only complaint with them stock.

I might have to try out your fiberglass idea. Do you think that helps fix that problem area?

It's interesting modding these headphones, because it's more about damping in front of the drivers. Much easier than digging around inside cups. :)

it worked for me. i would experiment though using different level of layering see what you like. too much can make them sound really dark and too little it'll have to no effect. i got it where it sounded balance to my ears. the fiberglass i used is very light density(r-19). i always use very light density. it should be very cheap as well to experiment with. i say give it a shot if you want or just keep playing with what you think ''feels'' right. i use nothing but my imagination all the time and test headphones via listening to music. only time i ever use sinegens is with low-bass(50hz) cause using that is good way to detect driver imbalanced within the modding. if everything sounds ''center'' with 30-50hz then everything else will as well.
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