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Re: PC-Build
« Reply #30 on: January 29, 2014, 10:21:55 PM »

Skyline is right, building in the Corsair cases is nice. Will give more complete info later, but having worked in both case it really comes down to:

R4:
  - Spiritual successor to p180 series
  - Quiet design
  - Pushing the edges of size for a mid tower
  - not ideal for large radiator in the future
  - requires a lot of foresight for planning airflow with a packed system with a powerful GPU (not a problem in your case)

Corsair:
  - SUPER easy to build in
  - much smaller case
  - can fit 240mm radiators in two spots
  - slightly more costly
  - windows looks tacky




I give the nod for cable management to the Corsair because the distance for cable runs is shorter and the mount points for cable ties are a little better.


if you need 120mm fans, this is a good deal:


https://www.massdrop.com/buy/cougar-120mm-3pack
There is a cheaper version of the 350D without a window.  I don't have an issue with it myself, but that could change after seeing it in person.

Also, I've added the Arc Mini R2 to my list.  It seems pretty on-par with the 350D and I might give it a slight edge in looks, although it's hard to tell without seeing it in person.

At least there's a smaller and darker window which should make you happy :P
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Re: PC-Build
« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2014, 04:17:12 AM »

hello,

to really, really throw a wrench into the works (and it is overpriced, to boot) this is the case i want for my next build:

http://www.amazon.com/Lian-PC-10N-Aluminum-Mid-tower-Case/dp/B00H6XVZRQ

wishes, horses... but you may have made a buy that will last through a bunch of future builds!
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Re: PC-Build
« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2014, 05:03:31 AM »

hello,

to really, really throw a wrench into the works (and it is overpriced, to boot) this is the case i want for my next build:

http://www.amazon.com/Lian-PC-10N-Aluminum-Mid-tower-Case/dp/B00H6XVZRQ

wishes, Sarah Jessica Parkers... but you may have made a buy that will last through a bunch of future builds!
Nice.

I made a decision early on to pretend that Lian-Li doesn't exist.  It's far easier that way.
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Re: PC-Build
« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2014, 02:05:36 PM »

The downside to Lians, particularly more recently, is that the build quality of the lower end cases isn't all that good. The $200+ V series and $400 Tyr cases are VERY well built as you would expect, but Lian Li tries to compete with the <$100 stuff, which means very thin aluminum.
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Re: PC-Build
« Reply #34 on: February 01, 2014, 04:52:22 AM »

350D on sale:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139021

$99.99 - $10 code (EMCPWGP34) PLUS a $10 rebate.

Dave's right in that the Lian Li cases (especially the lower end) are not as well built. They use thin aluminum and a fair amount of mass loader is necessary if you want to eliminate all vibrations. They are also generally terrible for cable management. You'll spend way more time trying to tidy up than in the 350D.

You're looking in the right direction for the CPU, motherboard and PSU. I'd only go much crazier on the PSU if you're planning on adding a beefy video card later. Otherwise the CX430 was reviewed pretty favorably in the sub $50 range by jonnyguru who is very thorough in his testing.

As for RAM, troll slickdeals, fatwallet, Overclock (http://www.overclock.net/f/327/online-deals) and Hardforum (http://hardforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=280) hot deals. I'd be patient with the build and wait for the best pricing. Doesn't hurt to take a month to get all the parts.

I'll check the parts closet for whatever stuff I've gotten on random deals. I might actually have a CX430 new in box and Seasonic 660 XP2 sitting around. I'll see what else is in there.

CPU coolers, I'd see if the stock cooler is fine for your needs. If you need a quieter cooler, you can replace it later, but there's no use spending money on unnecessary items given everything you've told us. Sure, later you can decide to do a larger hsf with slow fans or one of the better closed loop coolers with undervolted fans, but you're better off holding off until you know you'll need it.

Your thread has made me re-evaluate my system. The gutted Q25 I use is annoying as heck for cable management and I think I'll be moving everything into the much larger 250D if they offer a version without a window :) . I can also mount my radiators INSIDE the case!
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Re: PC-Build
« Reply #35 on: February 01, 2014, 04:58:20 AM »

350D on sale:

http://www.newegg.com/Product/Product.aspx?Item=N82E16811139021

$99.99 - $10 code (EMCPWGP34) PLUS a $10 rebate.

Dave's right in that the Lian Li cases (especially the lower end) are not as well built. They use thin aluminum and a fair amount of mass loader is necessary if you want to eliminate all vibrations. They are also generally terrible for cable management. You'll spend way more time trying to tidy up than in the 350D.

You're looking in the right direction for the CPU, motherboard and PSU. I'd only go much crazier on the PSU if you're planning on adding a beefy video card later. Otherwise the CX430 was reviewed pretty favorably in the sub $50 range by jonnyguru who is very thorough in his testing.

As for RAM, troll slickdeals, fatwallet, Overclock (http://www.overclock.net/f/327/online-deals) and Hardforum (http://hardforum.com/forumdisplay.php?f=280) hot deals. I'd be patient with the build and wait for the best pricing. Doesn't hurt to take a month to get all the parts.

I'll check the parts closet for whatever stuff I've gotten on random deals. I might actually have a CX430 new in box and Seasonic 660 XP2 sitting around. I'll see what else is in there.

CPU coolers, I'd see if the stock cooler is fine for your needs. If you need a quieter cooler, you can replace it later, but there's no use spending money on unnecessary items given everything you've told us. Sure, later you can decide to do a larger hsf with slow fans or one of the better closed loop coolers with undervolted fans, but you're better off holding off until you know you'll need it.

Your thread has made me re-evaluate my system. The gutted Q25 I use is annoying as heck for cable management and I think I'll be moving everything into the much larger 250D if they offer a version without a window :) . I can also mount my radiators INSIDE the case!
I saw that sale on the 350D.  Tempted to pull the trigger, although I see it was on sale for $49 in December.  I wonder if it's realistic to think that may happen again...
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Re: PC-Build
« Reply #36 on: February 01, 2014, 05:02:31 AM »

Are you talking about the 58.99 after rebate at NCIX US? Doubtful.

Edit: holy balls. $40AR was nuts. Just saw newegg had that in Dec.

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Re: PC-Build
« Reply #37 on: February 01, 2014, 05:06:07 AM »

Are you talking about the 58.99 after rebate at NCIX US? Doubtful.

Edit: holy balls. $40AR was nuts. Just saw newegg had that in Dec.


Haha yep.  I nearly cried when I read all the reviews mentioning what a great case it was for $50.  :P
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Re: PC-Build
« Reply #38 on: February 01, 2014, 05:13:26 AM »

Not happening except during Q4 by a retailer as large as NewEgg (or Fry's 10 years ago) as a loss leader to post up big numbers.
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Re: PC-Build
« Reply #39 on: February 01, 2014, 02:34:25 PM »

Not happening except during Q4 by a retailer as large as NewEgg (or Fry's 10 years ago) as a loss leader to post up big numbers.
Good point...

The build may be put on hold for a few months.  My wife and I have started house hunting and it may be easier to wait and do all this once we're in our new place.

Still I could buy the case and stash it away for a few months.  It's not like a motherboard or memory where I'll be in a hurry to install it and make sure it works.  And, of course, I'm still going to be price watching.  If something comes up that I just can't pass on, then I'll go ahead and grab it and take my chances.
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