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Re: Ribbon Headphones, Ahoy!
« Reply #10 on: March 09, 2014, 09:59:48 AM »

That pdf had a bit of BS, but I'm interested in hearing this stuff.  Should be an exciting year.

First post here in a long while, hopefully not too controversial! The white paper is indeed dodgy in some of the things beeing said. Coming to mind (I gave up half way thru):

1. Porous layers are non linear in their acoustic characteristics. Well, that's news to me (and shocking after all the time I've spent modeling / measuring fibrous materials and never ever seeing this supposed non-linearity).

2. Headphones all have free resonance characteristic of tweeters, e.g. Somewhere in the kHz range. Well, I am sorry to say, this is incorrect for the most part. I think the author is confusing the poor radiation efficiency of small suze diaphragms and high frequency of resonance. We all know for example that planars and other stats have a free air resonance in the 100hz range or lower.

3. Equating the efficient acoustic coupling of sealed earpad cavities with speakers loading a vehicle cabin. Well, actually the analogy is right in the sense of the acoustic impedance felt by the driver and resulting coupling. But the faults with a car woofer typically come from the first cabin modes (which you'll never get in a phone below 2kHz or so), not due to the loading mecanism.

Now, it's always exciting to hear about some innovative transducers so I definitely curious about this. My understanding of piezzo transducers is their very very limited displacement range (thus making them practical only as tweeters, I used to work with the famous Audax HD3P, quite something). So, I have my reservation about how you can get around this but I am very curious!

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Re: Ribbon Headphones, Ahoy!
« Reply #11 on: March 09, 2014, 11:53:15 AM »

Heard those Obravo cans at CES...I thought they were unbelievably bad.  Don't remember the specifics, but didn't want them on my head for more than a few minutes.

Thanks for the heads-up, Romy.  Didn't know about the other ones.
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Re: Ribbon Headphones, Ahoy!
« Reply #12 on: March 09, 2014, 11:06:10 PM »

Heard those Obravo cans at CES...I thought they were unbelievably bad.  Don't remember the specifics, but didn't want them on my head for more than a few minutes.

Thanks for the heads-up, Romy.  Didn't know about the other ones.

Yeah... I've heard from several other people that the O'bravos were awful. The most praise I've ever heard about them so far came from a distributor who said something along the lines of, "they're very amp specific... needs the right amp. But I still like the TakeT H2+ more."

So, uh, yeah. Seems these are a bust sadly. :(
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Re: Ribbon Headphones, Ahoy!
« Reply #13 on: March 10, 2014, 10:54:21 AM »

LOL glad I'm not tone deaf when it comes to headphones... those OBravo headphones were pretty terrible indeed when I heard them.  p:0

Apparently ESS is working on a new headphone for ~$450?
http://www.theabsolutesound.com/articles/ces-2014-headphone-earphones-and-related-electronics-part-2/
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