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Re: HD580
« Reply #30 on: January 22, 2014, 10:09:34 PM »
I'm not sure if the HD580/600/650 get the same drivers from the factory.

However, the replacement drivers for all of these seems to call for the same part number 091570.

If all of these cans use the same driver, besides some possible differences in the damping scheme inside the cup, the only thing I can think off is driver cherry picking at the factory.

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Re: HD580
« Reply #31 on: January 25, 2014, 03:02:21 AM »
@Hans####: Dan did say he reduced the lower midrange by a bit (in reference to the LCD-2) and added emphasis in the 4k area that would make the MD sound "clear", for what it's worth. I don't know honestly. I feel like I need to listen to this pair of 580s or some HD600s at least to see how they compare to what I remember.

@Deep Funk: That's true. I did find the Mad Dogs to be more detailed despite generally being more laid back, but as Hans noted, that's probably because of the 10khz peak. I also noticed the bass was more detailed on the MDs, but I'm also guessing that might have to do with lower distortion and possibly the lack of a midbass hump?

@Ultrabike: Weird, I looked on that website and it looks like the HD650 uses a different driver that's actually cheaper than the 580 and the 600?
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Re: HD580
« Reply #32 on: January 25, 2014, 04:06:14 AM »
Shut you are right! The HD650 part number is 092855, not 091570!

Thanks for the correction :)
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Re: HD580
« Reply #33 on: January 25, 2014, 05:29:21 AM »
Quote from: mechgamer123 on January 25, 2014, 03:02:21 AM
I also noticed the bass was more detailed on the MDs, but I'm also guessing that might have to do with lower distortion and possibly the lack of a midbass hump?

If my memory is serving me correctly, the Sennheisers do have more harmonic distortion in the bass, and that hump would have a lot to do with it as well.
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Re: HD580
« Reply #34 on: February 08, 2014, 04:24:13 AM »
Updated FR scale and ranges on first post.
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Re: HD580
« Reply #35 on: July 02, 2014, 12:48:07 AM »
Got the 580 Jubilee in, with the prototype 600 driver. Quickly hooked them up to the X3 to make sure they worked and had to keep listening for the full album. I'm kind of blown away, these are better than the 650s I have laying around and the well-worn earpads make them feel virtually weightless. Vocals sound terrific and while the bass definition is still slightly short of the best there's little bloat or congestion. A very cohesive sound.

What do you say, Gilberto, you up for measuring another pair of the Senn 6xx family?  :)p14
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Re: HD580
« Reply #36 on: July 02, 2014, 01:00:45 AM »
Yuppers! PM sent! :)p2
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Re: HD580
« Reply #37 on: July 17, 2014, 07:21:07 AM »
Adding some HD580 Jubilee edition stuffs:

Impressions: Very nice. Measurements seem to show a bit more roll off in the sub-bass region than some other HD6x0, but I don't hear it bass lite at all. This is a pretty well taken care off unit BTW.

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Distortion Right



Distortion Left



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Re: HD580
« Reply #38 on: July 17, 2014, 07:23:31 AM »
A quick fr comparo between the old pads and new pads installed.

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And a comparo with my HD600s (measured a few minutes ago) - left drivers. This was done more to double check the measurement rig than anything else. Again, I don't hear these as bass lite.



There is a difference of about 3 dB in efficiency (mine being a little more efficient). This brings IMO a point about replacing drivers (if needed): They should be matched.
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Re: HD580
« Reply #39 on: July 17, 2014, 08:41:32 AM »
Thanks for this.  :money:  I'd been wondering about the Jubilees, as I prefer its look to the 600.

So that regular HD580 measured closer to HD600 than the Jubilee? I wouldn't have expected that.

Edit: The emoticon says "money." I thought I was giving you a Heineken.
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