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Re: Beef! It's what's for dinner.
« Reply #10 on: December 27, 2013, 01:37:35 PM »

After scrolling through this, I swear I started to smell wood and smoke.
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Re: Beef! It's what's for dinner.
« Reply #11 on: December 27, 2013, 03:00:37 PM »

What do asians know about beef?   ;)

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Re: Beef! It's what's for dinner.
« Reply #12 on: December 27, 2013, 06:59:18 PM »



Aww... it'll be at least five months before it's warm enough up here to bbq.

That's cooked at 170F not 170C. The cold should work in your favor. I moved the roast after searing on the grill to the oven - didn't want it to be over-smoked - which is unavoidable for a long cooking duration using lump charcoal in a ceramic egg type grill.

I know the US government disapproves cooking food at 170F. I also don't recommend anyone cook beef in this fashion since you may die. Just my disclaimer so someone doesn't sue me.
It's actually safe to cook beef at that temperature, it just depends on how long you cook it.  The bacterial killing is a function of temp as well as time.  They just recommend the high minimum temp because the bacteria gets killed instantly at that temp. 

I don't know anything about cooking but was able to successfully make some sous vide steaks/chicken.  Really easy.  It's a low temp, slow cook method using an airtight bag submersed in water.  All I needed was hot water, a Ziploc, a thermometer, and my modified beer cooler.  Steaks were cooked at 138 and chicken a bit higher.  Everything came out super tender and moist and I'm still alive. :) 

You should check it out if you haven't tried it before.  Here's some info on the temp safety discussed above and his site also has a guide on using a beer cooler as well as several sous vide recipes:

http://www.seriouseats.com/2010/04/sous-vide-basics-low-temperature-chicken.html

The sous vide machines are kinda expensive so I plan on using a temperature feedback PID controller with a crockpot.  That should allow me to maintain more stable temps over a longer timespan.  :D
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Re: Beef! It's what's for dinner.
« Reply #13 on: December 27, 2013, 08:54:57 PM »

Also, by too cold I mean I do not want to go outside in -40 weather to bbq.

That's grilling, not BBQ.  You're from NY aren't ya?   ;)


Winnipeg, way up in canuckland. Cooking/grilling/whatever outdoors is generally not a good plan. Granted, we're in the middle of a strange "heat" wave right now. Back to -40 in a couple days...
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Re: Beef! It's what's for dinner.
« Reply #14 on: December 27, 2013, 08:56:38 PM »

That chicken looks awesome. I'll need to try this under-vacuum method of cooking.
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Re: Beef! It's what's for dinner.
« Reply #15 on: December 27, 2013, 10:25:53 PM »

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Re: Beef! It's what's for dinner.
« Reply #16 on: December 28, 2013, 12:11:17 AM »

That chicken looks awesome. I'll need to try this under-vacuum method of cooking.
it's my favourite way of cooking for sure, the Anova circulator is from what I can tell the best bang for buck if you want a serious setup.
it won't have the delicious smokiness and incinerated fat fume smell from grilling or barbecuing but if you finish it off on the grill it miiiiight...
steaks done this way are divine however, highly recommended. almost foolproof.
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Re: Beef! It's what's for dinner.
« Reply #17 on: December 28, 2013, 04:40:48 AM »

Famous Salt Lick Ranch and Restaurant near San Antonio.  Fantastic Brisket, Sausage and Beef Ribs.  Check out that pit!  Btw, All-U-Can-Eat!! Yessir!

I was there a few years ago when on a business trip to Austin. Really great place!

Cattleman's Ranch in Fabens, TX.  This place is in the middle of nowhere and is on a massive ranch that raises its own cattle.  This place is pretty much busy all the time.  The most perfectly cooked Rare Porterhouse I've ever had.  It's actually not easy to cook a perfect rare steak, all the fat has to be rendered without overheating the center.  Meat and seasoning was perfect.  The Pineapple Coleslaw was revelatory.

Was there a few hours ago. Fabens is about 30 miles east of El Paso. They actually have a not so Mickey Mouse zoo inside. This is the main entrance:



The place was pretty busy today. I ordered "The Cowboy" which is a 2 Ib Porterhouse steak (New York T-bone-bordered with a Filet Mignon) plus the classic baked potato and good ol coleslaw... gone in a few minutes :)p1. Below was my steak.




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Re: Beef! It's what's for dinner.
« Reply #18 on: December 28, 2013, 05:03:58 AM »

Coincidentally, we cooked rib roast for Christmas Day for the first time.  Not sure if it is "aged".  Your cooking method looks more sophisticated, and I might try that next time.

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Re: Beef! It's what's for dinner.
« Reply #19 on: December 28, 2013, 05:21:43 AM »

Sous-vide is great for texture and even cooking.  However, flavor is more difficult to achieve as munch said. The key to rich flavors on most proteins is from the Maiilard reaction http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maillard_reaction.  In other words, searing, roasting, caramelization.  Simply put, color = flavor.  Flavor inherent to the actual protein that is, not seasoning is addition to (except salt which does both).  This is why even the best restaurants in the world that employ sous-vide often use the protein as a canvas for sauces and other accompaniments in more complex dishes.  It does also makes perfect sense for harder to cook proteins which dry out fast like turkey and chicken breast, and pork loin. Sous-vide is a great technique, but not a replacement or one-stop solution.  It's actually getting a little too trendy and cliche like using liquid nitrogen at some places.
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