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Metrum Acoustics Quad Measurements (NOS Mini DAC)
« on: December 06, 2013, 12:28:01 PM »

Test Hardware and Setup

1. Acer Aspire 5560G Laptop - Locked at 1.4GHz and 0.9125V via K10Stat, dedicated GPU disabled, internal fan disconnected (low temps and stability verified), most Fidelizer tweaks applied, and other hardware, software, and services disabled.

2. JKSPDIF MK3 - Input with generic USB cable, output with 75ohm RF attenuator and 75ohm BNC to RCA Coaxial cable to Metrum DAC (looks like Blue Jeans? Cable came with used products, not sure)

3. Metrum Acoustics NOS Mini Dac Quad - Blue Jeans RCA cable, w/ stock external 7V PSU using generic 3-prong power cord from a computer PSU

4. Creative X-FI HD USB (SB1240) - Takes line-out signal from Metrum DAC to line-in for recording purposes, powered by USB bus, connected to Acer laptop. Unit is limited to 48/96KHz input/output. Measurements of this unit are in post 6.

Software

Test software used was RightMark 6.3.0. All 16-bit tests were done in DirectSound and Kernel Streaming modes at 48KHz and 96KHz. 24-bit tests would not work in Kernel Streaming mode for some reason, so they were limited to DirectSound only. You will see in the results that these do produce slightly different results. When listening to music, I have no issues running at 24-bit, 96KHz or greater, and with Kernel Streaming. When testing, I matched the input/output sound devices to the same bit-depth and sampling rate in the sound options to what I had set in RightMark. Also, I'm using the free version of RightMark, so I'm somewhat limited when it comes to testing options.

I also ran one test where I used XXHighEnd with Arc Prediction enabled as the playback software and RightMark for recording/measuring.

Update 12/7: Used ARTA to run some other measurements. See 2nd page for updates. These included impulse response, FR, phase, sine wave at various sampling rates, square wave, spectrum, etc.

Misc.

I will also note a few things. First, I'm fairly certain the Creative SB1240 does not measure flat down to 20Hz. There is a slight roll-off. I have measured the Metrum DAC via the line-in on my desktop to confirm it performs flat down to 20Hz. That's the only purpose that particular line-in served, as it was otherwise on a noisy motherboard and gave poor results.

Second, I only ran these tests once each after figuring out optimal settings. Considering that and the cheap, simple nature of my setup, you can expect to see some issues and artifacts that might not be repeatable, especially on a nicer setup.

Third, do notice that the scale and range of the graphs can change depending on the test configuration. Keep that in mind. Some of the images are not attached to posts in the same order as well.

I am attaching all of the Metrum DAC measurement result files and HTML versions to this first post and will touch on a few select examples in following posts.

I'll continue to update this thread assuming I try out other testing methods.

Links

Metrum Acoustics Quad NOS DAC - http://www.metrum-acoustics.nl/NOS_mini_DAC_English.html
JKSPDIF MK3 - http://www.johnkenny.biz/home-1/mk3-hiface
Creative SB1240 - http://us.creative.com/p/sound-blaster/sound-blaster-digital-music-premium-hd
RightMark Audio Analyzer - http://audio.rightmark.org/index_new.shtml
ARTA: http://www.artalabs.hr/
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Metrum Quad DAC 16-bit/48KHz Kernel Streaming Mode Measurements
« Reply #1 on: December 06, 2013, 12:35:21 PM »

16-bit/48KHz Kernel Streaming Mode Measurements:

Frequency response (from 40 Hz to 15 kHz) | dB +0.17, -1.49 | Average
Noise level | dB (A) -94.9 | Very good
Dynamic range | dB (A) 91.6 | Very good
THD | % 0.037  | Good
THD + Noise | dB (A) -66.7 | Average
IMD + Noise | % 0.044 | Good
Stereo crosstalk | dB -92.6 | Excellent
IMD at 10 kHz | % 0.216 | Average
General performance | Good

Graphs attached to post
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Metrum Quad DAC 24-bit/96KHz DirectSound Measurements
« Reply #2 on: December 06, 2013, 12:46:04 PM »

24-bit/96KHz DirectSound Mode Measurements:

Frequency response (from 40 Hz to 15 kHz) | dB -0.01, -0.59 | Good
Noise level | dB (A) -98.6 | Excellent
Dynamic range | dB (A) 95.1 | Excellent
THD | % 0.054 | Average
THD + Noise | dB (A) -63.7 | Poor
IMD + Noise | % 0.056 | Good
Stereo crosstalk | dB -91.5 | Excellent
IMD at 10 kHz | % 0.082 | Good
General performance | Very good
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Metrum Quad DAC 16-bit/48KHz DirectSound Measurements
« Reply #3 on: December 06, 2013, 12:51:18 PM »

This is another 16-bit/48KHz test, but this one is using DirectSound mode. See how it compares to Kernel Streaming mode in my second post:

Frequency response (from 40 Hz to 15 kHz) | dB +0.10, -1.56 | Average
Noise level | dB (A) -90.0 | Very good
Dynamic range | dB (A) 86.4 | Good
THD | % 0.054 | Average
THD + Noise | dB (A) -63.7 | Poor
IMD + Noise | % 0.059 | Good
Stereo crosstalk | dB -89.5 | Excellent
IMD at 10 kHz | % 0.108 | Average
General performance | Good
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XXHighEnd w/ Arc Prediction 24/96 Test
« Reply #4 on: December 06, 2013, 12:56:31 PM »

Here are measurements using XXHighEnd for playback instead of doing playback and recording both through RightMark. 24/96 file was generated in RightMark. Had a difficult time getting levels matched properly on this, so I can't vouch for the accuracy of this one! (Though, I do think XXHighEnd sounds good...preferring it to JRMC so far...)

This was with Engine 3, which is based on WASAPI. I normally listen with Engine 4, which is based on Kernel Streaming, but the option was unavailable due to the measurement setup and configuration.

Frequency response (from 40 Hz to 15 kHz) | dB +0.06, -0.52 | Good
Noise level | dB (A) -102.5 | Excellent
Dynamic range | dB (A) 102.9 | Excellent
THD | % 0.037 | Good
THD + Noise | dB (A) -66.6 | Average
IMD + Noise | % 0.045 | Good
Stereo crosstalk | dB -98.4 | Excellent
IMD at 10 kHz | % 0.253 | Average
General performance | Very good
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REFERENCE: X-Fi HD USB 24/96 Loopback Measurement
« Reply #5 on: December 06, 2013, 01:04:27 PM »

FOR REFERENCE: Creative X-Fi HD USB (SB1240) external loopback measurements at 24/96 using Blue Jeans RCA cable

Frequency response (from 40 Hz to 15 kHz) | dB +0.01, -0.08 | Excellent
Noise level | dB (A) -98.4 | Excellent
Dynamic range | dB (A) 98.6 | Excellent
THD | % 0.0016 | Excellent
THD + Noise | dB (A) -89.5 | Good
IMD + Noise | % 0.0045 | Excellent
Stereo crosstalk | dB -90.9 | Excellent
IMD at 10 kHz | % 0.0049 | Excellent
General performance | Excellent

It's a solid little unit! They go on sale sometimes for around $60. Still, it's worth factoring these results into the Metrum Quad measurements. Consider that a loopback test is not optimal, nor do I have TOTL equipment and setups behind it. According to this link, its real-world/maximum line-in performance can go beyond this (about -104dB with noise and DR):

http://marlene-d.blogspot.com/2012/01/creative-labs-soundblaster-x-fi-hd-usb.html (scroll down a bit below half way for a table)
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Quick Impressions, Other Notes, etc.
« Reply #6 on: December 06, 2013, 01:39:53 PM »

As to be expected, the NOS treble roll-off is evident in these measurements. At 88.2KHz or above, this becomes much less of an issue (no more than -1dB at 20KHz, with 96KHz sampling). I find it helps me listen more comfortably and develop less fatigue over time. I do prefer a slightly dark sound as-is. The roll-off really isn't that noticeable at 88.2KHz or above, but you can definitely hear it at 44.1 or 48KHz. Setting the hardware to a higher sampling rate and using software upsampling can bring some very noticeable benefits. At that point, you can get into the fun of picking different upsampling methods. I'm currently using XXHighEnd's Arc Prediction method, as that is supposed to have no pre or post ringing.

You'll also notice the weird IMD measurements, though these do almost match the 0.04% distortion as posted on Metrum's website. Based on what I've learned about NOS DACs recently, I had been told to expect issues with harmonic and IM distortion. THD does show spikes at each 1KHz interval but is clean otherwise. THD + Noise was generally rated as average or poor.

IMD really looks interesting, though. I verified it looked this weird on my Auzentech sound card's line-in as well. I don't understand all the science behind this, so I'm not sure if this is typical of NOS DACs, unique to the Metrum implementation, or even how this will necessarily affect the music we listen to. I'm also not sure how to read IMD swept tones measurements nor do I know if they really tell us much. I'll need to do more reading on IMD...

Other than what I've noted, measurements show a lot of good qualities as well. You can see situations where the DAC pushes the limits of the A/DC. It might not be measuring at reference-level quality, but it does well enough for the most part to not leave me worried as long as it sounds good to my ears.

Unfortunately, I'm not at a position where I can give good, meaningful, and trustworthy impressions about DACs or the differences between them. I'd have to hear a lot more gear and do many more listening tests before I would feel comfortable making anything more than a guess.

That said, I can say with the Vali or Leckerton UHA-6S Mk.II and modded Tascam TH-02 (XXHighEnd software), I'm not hearing anything that's off about the sound right away. In fact, during my Vali listening tests, I found the Vali with Tascam did a fantastic job resolving fine, quick details with drums and cymbals (think fast progressive metal, anything that is easily smeared over). It did well outside of drums and cymbals, of course, but I was most struck by that right away. I found it very easy to track and place almost all aspects of what I was hearing. And, yet, I did not notice anything sounding harsh or unnatural (outside of the usual harshness of my go-to bands and genres). Very nice. Also noticed good dynamics, plenty of layering and depth to the sound with nice space between instruments and vocalists. Again, very happy overall so far...had a lot of fun listening and digging into the fine details of the music.

Now, I figure that if the Vali with Tascam was sounding that good, the DAC behind it had to be at least just as capable in order to present that. It might just be a good combo that works well together. I can't say for sure, and my listening tests have been limited to just the Tascam so far with those 2 amps. Take all of this with a grain of salt, but so far I am pleased. I'm also not necessarily saying it's the bestest setup I've heard either, just to make that clear. I'll have to listen more.

If anyone has any ideas on other tests I can and/or should run with my current setup (don't really want to pay money for more hardware or software...), let me know! I believe it was ultrabike that mentioned ARTA to me, so I might try that and REW to see what results they provide. Anything else? Questions? Though ts? Tips?
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Re: Metrum Acoustics Quad Measurements (NOS Mini DAC)
« Reply #7 on: December 06, 2013, 04:05:24 PM »

Interesting results. Thanks!

I've been looking into NOS DACs myself as well. Would be good if you could measure impulse response, seeing as how that's one of the supposed advantages of NOS DACs. Should be a way to do that with ARTA IIRC.
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Re: Metrum Acoustics Quad Measurements (NOS Mini DAC)
« Reply #8 on: December 06, 2013, 04:23:11 PM »

I would like to figure out ways to test impulse response, sine and square wave response, jitter, etc. Not sure what, if any, additional hardware or software (not free) I'd need for that. I'll look more into what ARTA can do.

Edit: Looks like ARTA might offer this functionality. I'll experiment with it tonight and post my results.
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Re: Metrum Acoustics Quad Measurements (NOS Mini DAC)
« Reply #9 on: December 06, 2013, 07:38:54 PM »

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