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Re: The Classical Thread
« Reply #20 on: March 25, 2015, 09:56:41 AM »

Back to our conversation form the shout box, I gave the HD800 a listen all day today.  But all of my listening lately has been Bruckner and Mahler, and I find the HE-6 so much more visceral for all the brass passages of which there are many.  When I'm in a more subtle mood I think I'll break the HD800 out again.
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Re: The Classical Thread
« Reply #21 on: March 25, 2015, 10:06:03 AM »

Yes, that composition/ recording tops my Beethoven list easily. Naive (which can be found on Amazon) bought the rights from Auvidis Valois and the price is excellent. Unfortunately I paid a whole lot more at the time.

I have not made my mind on the 9th yet, let me know your picks

Back to our conversation form the shout box, I gave the HD800 a listen all day today.  But all of my listening lately has been Bruckner and Mahler, and I find the HE-6 so much more visceral for all the brass passages of which there are many.  When I'm in a more subtle mood I think I'll break the HD800 out again.

You have a point here knerian. But how do you judge the tutti with the HE6? dont you feel that it turns into a scrambled egg? In my ears the 800 offer a better layering/ distinction among instruments. May I ask what amp/source do you use?
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Re: The Classical Thread
« Reply #22 on: March 27, 2015, 04:36:01 PM »

Added in my library 2 records by Kapustin (2+2, piano pieces), now I have to wait for the new DACs to arrive. Tnx for the tip Knerian
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Re: The Classical Thread
« Reply #23 on: March 27, 2015, 04:52:15 PM »

Added in my library 2 records by Kapustin (2+2, piano pieces), now I have to wait for the new DACs to arrive. Tnx for the tip Knerian
Which piano pc?  2+2 is great, can't rave about it enough.

And to keep it forum relevant, what DACs are you waiting for?
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Re: The Classical Thread
« Reply #24 on: March 27, 2015, 05:01:38 PM »

Yes, that composition/ recording tops my Beethoven list easily. Naive (which can be found on Amazon) bought the rights from Auvidis Valois and the price is excellent. Unfortunately I paid a whole lot more at the time.

I have not made my mind on the 9th yet, let me know your picks

You have a point here knerian. But how do you judge the tutti with the HE6? dont you feel that it turns into a scrambled egg? In my ears the 800 offer a better layering/ distinction among instruments. May I ask what amp/source do you use?

I like the Cyprien Katsaris rendition of the 9th.  It's the only solo piano version I've heard.  just kidding, I haven't listened to the 9th in a long time, I think the last time was watching Clockwork Orange, but now that we are talking about it I will put it on the playlist.  What/who do you recommend?

As for the HE-6/HD800 scrambled egg tutti question, I will need to listen and think about that more.  The largest issue is that in a big tutti, do the other instruments besides the brass and timpani even matter?  J/K. 

I heard Bruckner 8 live yesterday and they had 5 trumpets, 3 trombone, 1 tuba, 8 horns with 4 doubling on Wagner tubas.  All symphonies should include that many brass players, seriously.  One thing I will say is that no headphone can come CLOSE to a full symphony sound.  While it's obvious, you just kind of forget it sometimes.  I wrote about the concert in the live concerts thread, but I will say even one good concert is worth the cost of a pc of audio equipment sometimes. It was so good I am going back again tonight for the final performance.
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Re: The Classical Thread
« Reply #25 on: March 27, 2015, 06:43:12 PM »

I hit as many concerts as I can, on a good year 30+, on a bad season still not less than 15 (we are talking classical, i don't count in jazz, rock etc) so I know exactly what you mean knerian. If I had the time and money I would listen to live music every day, this being impossible made me built a decent stereo system for auditioning classic music. Will pm you with some details on equipment.

I found Kapustin's "Jazz pieces for Piano", if by any chance you don't have it let me know.

On the 9th (vinyl) I have Furtwangler, Karajan (both 1st and 2nd take on DG), Ivanov (Melodiya), Konwitschny (Fontana) and maybe something else I am forgetting right now. Like em all but no fav one. Still looking..
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Re: The Classical Thread
« Reply #26 on: March 27, 2015, 07:01:09 PM »

I hit as many concerts as I can, on a good year 30+, on a bad season still not less than 15 (we are talking classical, i don't count in jazz, rock etc) so I know exactly what you mean knerian. If I had the time and money I would listen to live music every day, this being impossible made me built a decent stereo system for auditioning classic music. Will pm you with some details on equipment.

I found Kapustin's "Jazz pieces for Piano", if by any chance you don't have it let me know.

On the 9th (vinyl) I have Furtwangler, Karajan (both 1st and 2nd take on DG), Ivanov (Melodiya), Konwitschny (Fontana) and maybe something else I am forgetting right now. Like em all but no fav one. Still looking..

Ahh, of course I have that Kapustin CD, it's a great intro to his work.
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Re: The Classical Thread
« Reply #27 on: April 14, 2015, 08:47:33 PM »

i can't find this online except for the pianist's own short clip, but this is

Ravel's Rapsodie Espagnole (4th mvt Feria) transcribed for solo piano by Kaikhosru Shapurji Sorabji, I've seen the score and it's ridiculous, Sorabji writes some of the most dense and complex piano music ever conceived, and this is a transcription from an orchestral piece.

http://www.michaelhabermann.com/sounds/ravel-sorabjiX.mp3

It sounds like a personal recording, the CD sound a lot better, I have a copy but will probably eventually buy this:

http://www.amazon.com/Kaikhosru-Sorabji-Transcriptions-Miachael-Habermann/dp/B00008ZZ37/ref=sr_1_8?ie=UTF8&qid=1429043799&sr=8-8&keywords=sorabji+habermann
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Re: The Classical Thread
« Reply #28 on: April 16, 2015, 05:53:41 PM »

So I listened to the Sorabji transcriptions by Habermann and it is quite interesting indeed. Got the Opus Clavincembalisticum too, with Ogdon (listening as we speak, it will take the entire night> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opus_clavicembalisticum ). Tnx for the tip Knerian.

I find certain similarities (in the form) with another last century favorite of mine, the concert for 2 pianos (or four hands if you prefer) by Poulenc. Highly recommended for the black disc followers is the Decca LP with Eden and Tamir.

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Re: The Classical Thread
« Reply #29 on: April 16, 2015, 06:11:18 PM »

Oh the concerto for 2 pianos by Poulenc is a favorite of mine however it is quite simple in form compared to Sorabji.

The Opus Clavecembalisticum I have several recordings of but have yet to listen to it all the way through.  I actually am not a huge fan of Sorabji's music, it is very complex and long and a bit beyond my comprehension and tastes.

But I do like his transcription of the Ravel due to it's ridiculous requirements of the pianist, it is laughably ridiculous.  He also wrote two paraphrases of Chopin's minute waltz which is also ridiculously complex, impossible to play, yet extremely funny due to his juxtapositions of the different themes in totally unrelated keys. Habermann recorded both of them, unfortunately I cannot find it on youtube or online streaming.
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