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HE-400 Velour Pads vs. Pleather Pads
« on: July 18, 2012, 10:45:39 PM »

HE-400 Velour Pads

Left and Right channels. Blue = Velour Pads.
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Re: HE-400 Velour Pads vs. Pleather Pads
« Reply #1 on: July 18, 2012, 11:24:01 PM »

Interesting results. I personally don't like the pleather pads on my HE500, maybe that's why I don't get the treble peak you've talked about. Are there any significant difference in the CSD plots ?
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Re: HE-400 Velour Pads vs. Pleather Pads
« Reply #2 on: July 19, 2012, 10:39:06 AM »

The treble peak is near 14kHz, where people's hearing starts to drop off massively. Humans don't have good resolving power or pitch identification up there anyways, so it's not harmful. That 14kHz peak is a good reason why the HE400 has good air. The

FR/CSD differences are not huge, but the velour pads seem to indicate overall smoother response (less dip in upper mids, more gradual peak in treble, more gradual transition from bass to the upper mid recess). First plot is with the pleather. The second plot is with the velour pads.

I haven't heard them with the velours yet to confirm with my ears, but given the number of people who say that it works, and these measurements, it's a high probably that the velour pads do work.
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Re: HE-400 Velour Pads vs. Pleather Pads
« Reply #3 on: July 19, 2012, 12:32:15 PM »

Hows the bass on these?
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Re: HE-400 Velour Pads vs. Pleather Pads
« Reply #4 on: July 19, 2012, 03:55:43 PM »

Awesome, many thanks purrin. The measurements hold up very well with what my by-ear comparison between the two pads were.

That upper mids / lower treble raise by the velours is beautiful on the CSD, really seems to round everything out.
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Re: HE-400 Velour Pads vs. Pleather Pads
« Reply #5 on: July 19, 2012, 04:17:03 PM »

NP. +26 karma points for having good ears and owning headphones which don't make my and presumably your ears bleed.
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Re: HE-400 Velour Pads vs. Pleather Pads
« Reply #6 on: July 21, 2012, 04:27:06 PM »

NP. +26 karma points for having good ears and owning headphones which don't make my and presumably your ears bleed.

Awesome! A rather arbitrary karma number but I'll take whatever, lol.

Btw purrin, when you were trying damping material with these, have you tried the HE400s with the grills off completely and the backs of the drivers open to air? Myself and a couple of others over HF agree that the grills aren't transparent / perforated enough, and that it's causing some slight resonance that reduces the potential soundstage / 3D imaging capabilities of the drivers. Here's a mod I did today, for which I did a writeup, to address this:

http://www.head-fi.org/t/619447/hifiman-he400-he500-re-grilling-mod-56k-dial-up-users-beware
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Re: HE-400 Velour Pads vs. Pleather Pads
« Reply #7 on: July 21, 2012, 08:04:34 PM »

Hey Jerg, did you do that drawing of the lion?
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Re: HE-400 Velour Pads vs. Pleather Pads
« Reply #8 on: July 21, 2012, 10:40:10 PM »

Hey Jerg, did you do that drawing of the lion?

Lol yeah, I'm an avid sketcher. That's just a random 5-min study I did a couple of days ago, scrap paper basically.
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Re: HE-400 Velour Pads vs. Pleather Pads
« Reply #9 on: July 26, 2012, 09:32:12 PM »

Any discernible measurement differences of THD between the two pad types, purrin? I mentioned this in the HE400 vs 500 bass thread, as it seems you didn't standardize velour pads for those THDs.
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